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06-11-2012, 19:45
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Hunting Sight Recommendation Please
I've read several posts concerning sights for the Glock 20 and have just about come to a conclusion but I thought that I'd go ahead and ask what others have to say. I'd be using this gun for mainly hunting (some low light shots) and informal target shooting.
I was looking at Dawson Precision Black adjustable rear/FO front.
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06-11-2012, 19:51
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I had that exact combination. It's good for the range, but terrible for the woods, in my experience. The black sight was too hard to pick up.
My opinion, based on a lot of time in the woods: both front and rear sights need some contrast, preferably white dots or bars. Fiber optic is OK, but not ideal for hunting. I personally prefer the stock Glock style, the Glock sights offer lots of contrast so they are easy to pick up against a background with mixed lighting. (Think leaves, sun, and shadows).
Of course, you could also go with a red dot sight milled into the slide with co-indexed iron sights, but that's a lot more $$ to do it right.
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06-11-2012, 20:25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yondering
I had that exact combination. It's good for the range, but terrible for the woods, in my experience. The black sight was too hard to pick up.
My opinion, based on a lot of time in the woods: both front and rear sights need some contrast, preferably white dots or bars. Fiber optic is OK, but not ideal for hunting. I personally prefer the stock Glock style, the Glock sights offer lots of contrast so they are easy to pick up against a background with mixed lighting. (Think leaves, sun, and shadows).
Of course, you could also go with a red dot sight milled into the slide with co-indexed iron sights, but that's a lot more $$ to do it right.
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Good info .... I've been watching this thread as I'll need some sights for hunting before November. Glad someone chimed in!!!
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06-11-2012, 20:35
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I originally had the DP Adjustable rear w/Green F/O, and a .100" wide Red F/O front. I found the rear F/O to be extremely distracting to the eyes, especially with long distance shots. I kept having to fight aligning the dots, aligning the tops of the sights & aligning the different color dots. I switched to the plain black DP rear, and couldn't be happier. I use the Red F/O like a red dot, and lining up the tops of the sights is very easy. It's a nice clean, simple sight picture, and I wouldn't change a thing.
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06-11-2012, 21:37
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My opinion, based on a lot of time in the woods: both front and rear sights need some contrast, preferably white dots or bars. Fiber optic is OK, but not ideal for hunting. I personally prefer the stock Glock style, the Glock sights offer lots of contrast so they are easy to pick up against a background with mixed lighting. (Think leaves, sun, and shadows).
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I'm sure you have more experience in this arena than I, but I feel most sight packages out there at least the few I have tried, offer too much rear sight definition.
Right now I have Mepro amber rear night sights and an Ameriglo Operator green/white night sight in front.
I will definitely be getting rid of the Mepro rear sight and probably will go with the Ameriglo amber/green Operators
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06-12-2012, 04:33
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How about tru-dot night sights like these?
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06-12-2012, 06:50
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Originally Posted by mogunr
I was looking at Dawson Precision Black adjustable rear/FO front.
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Also, what Meathead said....
I've personally killed three deer with 10mm's and I used some form of BLACK REAR / FO Front sights for each kill. I also wouldn't change a thing. Black rear is what you want. Also, the FO really stands out in the woods and in low light.
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06-12-2012, 15:14
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Originally Posted by nickE10mm
Also, what Meathead said....
I've personally killed three deer with 10mm's and I used some form of BLACK REAR / FO Front sights for each kill. I also wouldn't change a thing. Black rear is what you want. Also, the FO really stands out in the woods and in low light.
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No problems seeing the rear sights in low light?
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06-12-2012, 16:25
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Originally Posted by mogunr
No problems seeing the rear sights in low light?
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Nope. The only time it was an issue at all is when it was already too dark to shoot... With ANYTHING.
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06-12-2012, 17:03
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I use a Trijicon reflex red dot on my G-20. I like it a lot......light, great accuracy and visability. Also use a Burris FastFire reflex on another pistol.
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06-12-2012, 17:21
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Originally Posted by GotFour
I use a Trijicon reflex red dot on my G-20. I like it a lot......light, great accuracy and visability. Also use a Burris FastFire reflex on another pistol.
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I've always used FO sights on my pistols for hunting (and still keep them on my Fusion 6" 1911) but I'm really considering a Fastfire III on my G20SF since I have open sights on the Fusion. Time and money will eventually decide for me.
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06-12-2012, 17:40
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Anybody have a pic of their Glock with the Dawson adjustable rear? Thinking about this one....I see they make two different models as well.
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06-12-2012, 17:40
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http://www.ameriglo.net/catalog/sigh...l-combinations
I like the Ameriglo Hack sights. Nice wide black rear, bright front for quick sight acquisition and tritium for when the light is low or you are in the shadows.
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06-14-2012, 08:50
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Originally Posted by highxj
Anybody have a pic of their Glock with the Dawson adjustable rear? Thinking about this one....I see they make two different models as well.
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Here you go.
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06-14-2012, 10:38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mogunr
I've read several posts concerning sights for the Glock 20 and have just about come to a conclusion but I thought that I'd go ahead and ask what others have to say. I'd be using this gun for mainly hunting (some low light shots) and informal target shooting.
I was looking at Dawson Precision Black adjustable rear/FO front.
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I recently started installing Truglo TFO's on all my Glocks. I get the yellow rear, green front. Absolutely the best low light sight I have ever used.
The downside is they get some mixed reviews on reliability on some of the dealer sites. I have had zero problems once I figured out the front sight screw is a little long and needs to be slightly shortened with a small file and to use Blue Loctite on the FS.
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06-14-2012, 11:08
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Originally Posted by WeeWilly
I recently started installing Truglo TFO's on all my Glocks. I get the yellow rear, green front. Absolutely the best low light sight I have ever used.
The downside is they get some mixed reviews on reliability on some of the dealer sites. I have had zero problems once I figured out the front sight screw is a little long and needs to be slightly shortened with a small file and to use Blue Loctite on the FS.
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X 2. The dot contrast works for me. The sights seem to provide the same visibility, in any light condition. No halo, and very easy to pick up the front. Longer lugs, but essentially unnoticed. The rear is somewhat tapered, but still allows for practical single-hand slide operation (critical!).
I've installed a few of these, and the supplied front screw was too long in all but one, the latest (probably a kit fix). At first, I shortened the thread end a bit. Later, I used a fiber shim (zero compression), and lap off about .002" of the head for barrel clearance. The washer prevents screw movement once torqued. Blue Loc-Tite on the threads, sparingly. Initially, I considered locking down the rear of the front sight (Loc-Tite), but didn't. All of them are still solid and haven't moved after thousands of rounds. Very high quality design and fitment.
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06-14-2012, 18:59
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Originally Posted by highxj
Anybody have a pic of their Glock with the Dawson adjustable rear? Thinking about this one....I see they make two different models as well.
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Hope this helps. I found the Dawson to be a high quality and well made sight; I just didn't like the sight picture for use in the woods. One thing to be aware of is the Dawson sight is much taller than the stock sights.
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06-15-2012, 08:47
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I purchased my G20sf strictly for deer hunting. I spent a lot of time researching different scope mounts, red dots and all sorts of iron sights. I finally settled on the Advantage Tactical sight that someone had mentioned on one of the forum threads here. It's a pyramid shape. I really liked the fact that you use the very tip of the pyramid as your aiming point. Very precise and really impressive at longer distances (50-75yrds). It comes with several different color combinations and you can change them to whatever you like. Extremely accurate! Very happy with it.
http://www.advantagetactical.com/
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06-15-2012, 09:28
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Same here. Good sight for hunting.
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Originally Posted by scope422
I purchased my G20sf strictly for deer hunting. I spent a lot of time researching different scope mounts, red dots and all sorts of iron sights. I finally settled on the Advantage Tactical sight that someone had mentioned on one of the forum threads here. It's a pyramid shape. I really liked the fact that you use the very tip of the pyramid as your aiming point. Very precise and really impressive at longer distances (50-75yrds). It comes with several different color combinations and you can change them to whatever you like. Extremely accurate! Very happy with it.
http://www.advantagetactical.com/
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06-15-2012, 09:35
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Originally Posted by dm1906
X 2. The dot contrast works for me. The sights seem to provide the same visibility, in any light condition. No halo, and very easy to pick up the front. Longer lugs, but essentially unnoticed. The rear is somewhat tapered, but still allows for practical single-hand slide operation (critical!).
I've installed a few of these, and the supplied front screw was too long in all but one, the latest (probably a kit fix). At first, I shortened the thread end a bit. Later, I used a fiber shim (zero compression), and lap off about .002" of the head for barrel clearance. The washer prevents screw movement once torqued. Blue Loc-Tite on the threads, sparingly. Initially, I considered locking down the rear of the front sight (Loc-Tite), but didn't. All of them are still solid and haven't moved after thousands of rounds. Very high quality design and fitment.
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I think the washer idea is the right approach.
On my last install (yesterday) I used a very small brass washer to space the screw, I had to take just a slight bit of the high spots of the top of the screw down so the barrel would clear, one pass with a fine file.
This is a better approach to shortening the screw, as I had a lot of difficulty getting the shortened screw to start into the sight after it was flattened off by the file.
Hopefully they are using shorter screws now. Definitely for anyone doing an install with the TFO's, check before doing any of the "fixes". It is quite easy, just tighten the screw (don't over tighten) and then check to see if the front sight is solid. If it is, then Blue Loctite is all you will need. If the front sight is still loose after tightening the screw, then a small washer is the right solution.
Sorry for the hijack.
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06-15-2012, 22:07
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Quote:
Originally Posted by scope422
I purchased my G20sf strictly for deer hunting. I spent a lot of time researching different scope mounts, red dots and all sorts of iron sights. I finally settled on the Advantage Tactical sight that someone had mentioned on one of the forum threads here. It's a pyramid shape. I really liked the fact that you use the very tip of the pyramid as your aiming point. Very precise and really impressive at longer distances (50-75yrds). It comes with several different color combinations and you can change them to whatever you like. Extremely accurate! Very happy with it.
http://www.advantagetactical.com/
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These sights interest me ... I've researched them before, but didnt turn up much info. How's the quality? Made of steel or aluminum? Front sight metal or composite?
Any info would be appreciated!!
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06-15-2012, 23:01
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Yep, A black rear sight, (enter whatever color works for your eyes 'front sight') is always a good bet... The front sight is all ya really need any way. To many dots to line up slows things down and keeps ones eyes off the game, the threat, the target, what ever, and on the sights.
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06-16-2012, 07:49
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Originally Posted by CanyonMan
Yep, A black rear sight, (enter whatever color works for your eyes 'front sight') is always a good bet... The front sight is all ya really need any way. To many dots to line up slows things down and keeps ones eyes off the game, the threat, the target, what ever, and on the sights.
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Yep. I have TruGlo TFO's on my G20 specifically for hunting sidearm (note, not primary tool). I wanted something that was always very high visibility. TFO's don't disappoint in that respect. But if I shoot that gun in IDPA the sight picture is very busy.
I am a big fan of the DP front FO and a un-dotted black rear sight. The DP has a much smaller (ie precise) FO than most others. I have been putting some combination of this on all of my guns lately.
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06-16-2012, 09:29
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Originally Posted by PsTaN
These sights interest me ... I've researched them before, but didnt turn up much info. How's the quality? Made of steel or aluminum? Front sight metal or composite?
Any info would be appreciated!!
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The rear sight appears to be metal and the front seems to be plastic with a metal base. Hard to tell with it mounted. The colored inserts are plastic but they are protected when mounted. The front sight is very beefy and strong. It's a rugged sight, I wouldn't be concerned with it breaking. I was just shooting yesterday and 2" groups at 25 yards is easy to pull off and at 50 yards 4-5" groups consistently with some groups even smaller. This is off a bench rest, I cannot even come close to that accuracy free handed.
Anyway, here is some better pictures of the sight and how it mounts. The shims are a little bit of a pain to get it right but after that, you don't need to mess with it anymore. Not that they're hard to put on, it's just that you have to remove the slide and use the tool they give you to remove the front sight and put shims underneath to raise it. My g20 with a 6.6" threaded LW barrel required all the shims and then 2 more to get it right (Advantage will send you as many as you need for free).
http://www.xd-hs2000.com/xd-hs2000/A...cal_Sight.html
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06-16-2012, 20:33
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scope422 ....
Really good info and great link. Thanks for taking the time!! I appreciate it!!
PsTaN
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