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Old 07-03-2012, 18:17   #851
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Could someone please post a pic of this area of your slide on your older 9mm Gen 3 that NEVER DID have ejection problems?

I have been comparing my G34 to my LC9 as far as extractor hold, I have been experimenting with extractor geometry and think I may be on to something, my next step could potentially be modifying my slide a bit but I would like to see what an older Gen 3 looks like in this area. Thanks in advance!
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Old 07-03-2012, 21:03   #852
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Problems with Ejections? Brass Hitting Face?

Well I had those problems too, with a G19 generation 3. Now, I have found my cure! A Gemtech Tundra suppressor.

1/4 case (~247rds) of Winchester Ranger-T 147gr and no failures and no casings to the face



Thought I'd share,
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Old 07-03-2012, 21:12   #853
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Defiantly a fun way to cure Glock's brass to the head problems and quite too. SJ 40
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Old 07-04-2012, 00:47   #854
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Old 07-04-2012, 04:56   #855
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Well I had those problems too, with a G19 generation 3. Now, I have found my cure! A Gemtech Tundra suppressor.

1/4 case (~247rds) of Winchester Ranger-T 147gr and no failures and no casings to the face.
Have you tried 115 grain USB, WWB or TulAmmo with your suppressor?
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Old 07-04-2012, 05:21   #856
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Betcha the problem is still there. The moment your slide speed increases, again, it'll return.
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Old 07-04-2012, 09:06   #857
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I know at heart that Arc Angel is correct,the addition of the can changed the slide speed,one would hope Glock would be able to figure out the problem.
Ah but then comes the rub at what cost per unit,or at the cost to what used to be their good name. SJ 40
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Old 07-04-2012, 09:16   #858
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My Gen,4 26 quit throwing brass back to face after 300 rounds. Have went thru another 500 or so rounds of different ammo, no brass to face since. Now it piles them up pretty consistently.
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Old 07-04-2012, 11:52   #859
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Old 07-04-2012, 16:41   #860
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Has anyone tried a Spring Loaded Bearing for a NON-LCI extractor with a LCI extractor?

Seems as if might put a little pressure on the extractor.

I have been meaning to try this but somehow never get around to it.
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Old 07-05-2012, 09:59   #861
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Has anyone tried a Spring Loaded Bearing for a NON-LCI extractor with a LCI extractor?

Seems as if might put a little pressure on the extractor.

I have been meaning to try this but somehow never get around to it.
As soon as my parts come in I will let you know - I was thinking the same thing and ordered a new plunger, spring, and bearing from LWD... should be in today or tomorrow
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Old 07-05-2012, 13:35   #862
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So how long is the wait on a replacement extractor. My gen 4 model 27 has some erratic ejection but I have just lived with it, other than a few casings to the forehead my 27 has been 100% reliable. No ftf's or fte's. I called glock and told them my situation and was told they would ship me the replacement part to an armorer no charge.
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Old 07-06-2012, 10:07   #863
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Just wait.

The Apex extractor package is just about to be released and it will fix the problems that Glock refuses to fix.

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Old 07-06-2012, 14:21   #864
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FYI, glockparts.com has new extractors from Glock that are non-dip. Not the old non-LCI extractors but new LCI extractors that are non-dip.

I have no clue if these are an improved extractor, but someone on a couple other forums put one of these on a G19 with erratic ejection and it fixed his problem. I don't know if it was a gen 3 or gen 4 gun nor do I know if he put the 30274 ejector on it.

I have 2 on order to put on my late Gen 3 longslides. For now I'm running the modified dip extractor on my G34 and have a stock dip extractor on my 17L. Both guns have the 30274.

If the new extractor works I'll post here.

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Old 07-11-2012, 11:50   #865
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My Gen4 G19 Threw Cheap range ammo on my right arm and threw NATO spec over my head and wayy to the right.

I polished my extractor (top&bottom) and now it likes cheap range ammo and likes NATO spec even better!


These guys really provided a great bit of info for us, thanks!


Edit: Yeah, after about 500 rounds....not so much better
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Old 07-11-2012, 12:05   #866
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Wierd, I had the same experiance. I've also read where these dip extractors either worked out of the box then started acting up after a few thousand rounds then others have had issues until they got a few thousand rounds and then started ejecting well.

Looking forward to trying the new non-dip extractors I got in this week.
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Old 07-11-2012, 13:06   #867
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One thing I take away from all of this: Glock's customer service and way of fixing problems is absolutely terrible.

Some around here love to bash on Kimber for their ratty customer service....well..I don't know how Glock has been any better. At least Kimber DID do away with (entirely) their awful external extractors and replaced people's slides that wee having problems, with internal extractors that actually worked.

The way Glock went about "solving" this problem (...which put a huge dent in their stellar reputation, BTW) was p*ss poor. If you ask me...they STILL have not solved it.

Equally as poor was the "full retard" reactions from some, to the beta testers for Apex's fix for this problem. But that is grist for another post.

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Old 07-11-2012, 13:17   #868
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Looks as if I will have to apply some of the 9mm-style top/bottom extractor polishing to my new G30sf. It worked wonders on my G26.

Today I tried out some Speer Gold Dot, WWB & a few Buffalo Bore +P FMJ-FN (all 230 gr) in the G30sf. The Gold Dot & BB ejected well to my right. Hydra-Shok did the same the last time I tried some (although did not eject as far away). Winchester Ranger T series (not +p) has ejected farther away than any other ammo I have shot in the gun.

but the WWB was all over the place... left, right & straight back. Last time I shot the 30sf with WWB, one hopped behind my glass frames & burned the pee out of my eyelid (I know, I should wear a cap).
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Old 07-11-2012, 13:41   #869
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I too thought that maybe cheapo Wal Mart 9mm (Federal Champion and WWB) were the culprits in my 3rd gen G19.

However, I got brass to the face with other ammo, too like Hornady defensive loads.

I also used this same Wal Mart ammo in my 1994 made 2nd gen G17 and the stuff all ejects just fine in a neat little pile beside me. It is a ratty looking old police trade in gun with hardly any finish on the slide and a fairly worn smooth frame....not some safe queen

For some...ammo might be to blame but I am pretty sure ammo is not to blame or my old G17 would be tossing that stuff everywhere...but it does not.

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I too thought that maybe cheapo Wal Mart 9mm (Federal Champion and WWB) were the culprits in my 3rd gen G19.

However, I got brass to the face with other ammo, too like Hornady defensive loads.

I also used this same Wal Mart ammo in my 1994 made 2nd gen G17 and the stuff all ejects just fine in a neat little pile beside me. It is a ratty looking old police trade in gun with hardly any finish on the slide and a fairly worn smooth frame....not some safe queen

For some...ammo might be to blame but I am pretty sure ammo is not to blame or my old G17 would be tossing that stuff everywhere...but it does not.

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I have never worried too much about where the brass lands. In the face is not good, of course. As I reported in an earlier post, a friend's Gen2 G17 kept hitting his face until Glock tweaked it for him... so it's not a new problem - & today's performance with my G30sf shows it's not just a 9mm thing.

I am fairly content if all the ammo gets out with no jams. Such erratic ejection sure makes me wonder what is going on, though.
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Old 07-11-2012, 20:11   #871
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Anyways, it seems as though (I for one dont have any issues with any of my glocks and never had) that a light polish of the extractor will happen with use. So, I for one don't see an issue with polishing it but, it may shorten its life depending how much you remove. When we are talking 1000ths of an inch between working 100% and having erratic ejection, I'd just say be careful. A little will probably go a long way in terms of getting where you want it to be.
So this guy is stating that through basic wear and tear and getting rounds through your glock, this will basically cause the extractor to polish itself correct???

Just wondering because this whole polishing process seems a little too tedious for me at this point. Yet brass to the face is no damn fun at all.
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Old 07-11-2012, 23:07   #872
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FYI, glockparts.com has new extractors from Glock that are non-dip. Not the old non-LCI extractors but new LCI extractors that are non-dip.

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Fwiw, I ordered an lci extractor from Glockparts.com Monday, received it today and i received the dip extractor...

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Old 07-12-2012, 13:34   #873
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I called them and they hand picked it for me, sorry about that. I'm sure if you call them they'll swap it out for you if they still have stock. When I talked to him he said his latest bacth was non-dip. Maybe they sold out. I heard Brownells had the non dip but a poster on another site said he also received a dip extractor. Because of that I added a couple to an existing Brownells order, if they are dip (they'll be in today" I'll just return them.
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Fwiw, I ordered an lci extractor from Glockparts.com Monday, received it today and i received the dip extractor...

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Try that new/dipped extractor, it might be the fix. I fixed a couple of gen4's with stock LCI (dipped) extractors from glockparts.com

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Old 07-12-2012, 14:23   #875
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Fwiw, I ordered an lci extractor from Glockparts.com Monday, received it today and i received the dip extractor...

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Just emailed Dave at Glockparts and he said all he has was non dipped. I think you should give him a call.
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