[Bren]

Originally Posted by GlockPistola

Seems ironic that this guy worked in a psy ops unit in the military. You would think they would have a better psychological screening of people in this type of operation.

You would only think that if you don't know what Psy Ops is. Not kidding - it isn't some super-secret CIA program.

[countrygun]

Originally Posted by Bren

You would only think that if you don't know what Psy Ops is. Not kidding - it isn't some super-secret CIA program.

I had a buddy who used to laugh about being in a "Psy Ops"
program in Vietnam.

"I threw the bundles of leaflets out of the plane, sometimes I even cut the bands around them first"

[GlockPistola]

Originally Posted by Bren

You would only think that if you don't know what Psy Ops is. Not kidding - it isn't some super-secret CIA program.

I don't assume it is a super secret program, that was not my point. My point was that in those programs they do employ people that have knowledge of psychology, so you would expect there not only to be some sort of screening process, but that someone might see some red flags in his behavior. kind of like the Fort Hood shooting, the shooter was in the field of psychiatry yet people missed the red flags. People like this always have a history of problematic or bizarre behaviors, which apparently he had been disciplined before. Too many sociopaths and people with mental health disorders keep flying under the radar nowadays and going on these mass shootings and then of course, guns are blamed.

[Detectorist]

Originally Posted by Patchman

It just occurred to me. In all past cases of mass killings where a .gov vet was involved, how many were from the Navy (not Marines) or Air Force?

Any studies on that?

It's hard to get PTSD in the AF or NAVY unless one of them is hit by a golf ball or something.

[Jeff82]

Originally Posted by Patchman

It just occurred to me. In all past cases of mass killings where a .gov vet was involved, how many were from the Navy (not Marines) or Air Force?

Any studies on that?

US Postal workers. Ya gotta watch the mailman.

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[Bren]

Originally Posted by countrygun

I had a buddy who used to laugh about being in a "Psy Ops"
program in Vietnam.

"I threw the bundles of leaflets out of the plane, sometimes I even cut the bands around them first"

Yep. The guys who played heavy metal over louspeakers to irritate Noriega in Panama? Psy Ops. The guys who draw leaflets asking the enemy to give up? Psy Ops.

Originally Posted by GlockPistola

I don't assume it is a super secret program, that was not my point. My point was that in those programs they do employ people that have knowledge of psychology, so you would expect there not only to be some sort of screening process, but that someone might see some red flags in his behavior.

Psychology? Screening process? They employ soldiers - a guy goes into MEPS and they say, "do you want to be Infantry, Artillery, Psy Ops, Wheeled Vehicle Mechanic, Supply, or an MP" and he picks Psy Ops because the name sounds cool and they pretend it's a big deal in low budget movies about Vietnam. Most Psy Ops units in the Army are reserve and the 37F's I've served with are prison guards and cops and postal workers and construction laborers in civilian life.

[fnfalman]

Originally Posted by GlockPistola

I don't assume it is a super secret program, that was not my point. My point was that in those programs they do employ people that have knowledge of psychology, so you would expect there not only to be some sort of screening process, but that someone might see some red flags in his behavior. kind of like the Fort Hood shooting, the shooter was in the field of psychiatry yet people missed the red flags. People like this always have a history of problematic or bizarre behaviors, which apparently he had been disciplined before. Too many sociopaths and people with mental health disorders keep flying under the radar nowadays and going on these mass shootings and then of course, guns are blamed.

You'd be most disappointed to know that they don't do squat high-speed/low-drag in PsychOp or Military Intelligence.

[Bren]

Originally Posted by Detectorist

It's hard to get PTSD in the AF or NAVY unless one of them is hit by a golf ball or something.

Actually, there are loads of Air Force and Navy on the ground in Afganistan, attached to Army units. When I went through the combat advisor school, it was mixed almost evenly with Army, Navy and Air Force. The squad right behind mine in company formations was about 8 Air Force supply people and 1 Army Infantryman with badges and tabs all over. While I was in the school, 2 Navy officers that recently graduated from my Company were killed by an Afghan soldier that had recently been trained under the supervision of U.S. advisors hwo probably graduated with them at Ft. Riley. There are plenty of ways for them to get PTSD.

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[Mister_Beefy]

Originally Posted by Patchman

Well, you know how it is in a police state. The cops have to always be right. So if they're "thinking" possible domestic terrorism, it HAS to end up being domestic terrorism.

this is a troll post. I did not mention the police, you did.

Originally Posted by Patchman

Why? Because cops are always right and have to have the last word! WORD!

only when they're trolling.

Originally Posted by Patchman

Oh, BTW, I learned that on GNG.

another troll post. trying to get the last word in.

just let it go, you are making yourself look pathetic.

Originally Posted by TBO

ah, now I understand why you keep doing it.

[Patchman]

Wow, another post by Beefy where Beefy sees the world revolving around picking on Beefy!


Pathetic.

[GlockPistola]

Originally Posted by fnfalman

You'd be most disappointed to know that they don't do squat high-speed/low-drag in PsychOp or Military Intelligence.

Originally Posted by Bren

Yep. The guys who played heavy metal over louspeakers to irritate Noriega in Panama? Psy Ops. The guys who draw leaflets asking the enemy to give up? Psy Ops.

Psychology? Screening process? They employ soldiers - a guy goes into MEPS and they say, "do you want to be Infantry, Artillery, Psy Ops, Wheeled Vehicle Mechanic, Supply, or an MP" and he picks Psy Ops because the name sounds cool and they pretend it's a big deal in low budget movies about Vietnam. Most Psy Ops units in the Army are reserve and the 37F's I've served with are prison guards and cops and postal workers and construction laborers in civilian life.

Well, gee, I would hope they would at least have one consulting psychologist on staff doing some of the planning. I think I want my tax payer money back for that unit.

[countrygun]

Originally Posted by GlockPistola

Well, gee, I would hope they would at least have one consulting psychologist on staff doing some of the planning. I think I want my tax payer money back for that unit.

You do understand that a whole lot of people in "PsyOps" don't do anything related to psychology and, in general just do average soldier's jobs?

[wprebeck]

Originally Posted by Patchman

Wow, another post by Beefy where Beefy sees the world revolving around picking on Beefy!


Pathetic.

http://gamebattles.majorleaguegaming...otos?id=528839

http://gamebattles.majorleaguegaming...I'd=528856


So, I'll oblige -

You really expect someone to believe the person at the above site isn't you? Avatar look familiar? Along the the underscore you use between "mister" and "beefy", its a certainty this is you.

Its OK to be a geeky gamer that lives at home. Its not OK to pretend to be otherwise, and act like you have a clue about life in the real world. Life isn't Call of Duty or Medal of Honor, your apparent favorite games. But, you being the know-everything kid you are, I doubt you'll see my point.

And if it seems like I'm picking on you - I'm not. I'm just making the forum aware of who you are in real life.

[XDRoX]

Do we know what type of guns this guys used yet?

[GlockPistola]

Originally Posted by XDRoX

Do we know what type of guns this guys used yet?

Not yet I don't think. Hope not another Glock, you know that no brain communist and fascist gun grabbers here in California would go as far as to single out Glocks to ban. (Well in your case, I would assume you would hope not an XD).

[Jack_Pine]

They keep on saying it was a 9mm. Brand aside, one would have to guess it was a 15-19 round mag. that will get hem going, hi-cap and all.

[SouthpawG26]

CNN just reported the gun to be an XD, 9mm.

[Mister_Beefy]

Originally Posted by Patchman

Wow, another post by Beefy where Beefy sees the world revolving around picking on Beefy!


Pathetic.

if it wasn't a troll post, then please explain what your post had to do with the topic of the thread.

you don't like me. I get it.

there is a very handy ignore feature built into vbulletin. why not use it?

Originally Posted by wprebeck

gamebattles.majorleaguegaming.com/profile/Mister_Beefy/photos?id=528839

gamebattles.majorleaguegaming.com/profile/mister_beefy/photos?I'd=528856


So, I'll oblige -

You really expect someone to believe the person at the above site isn't you? Avatar look familiar? Along the the underscore you use between "mister" and "beefy", its a certainty this is you.

Its OK to be a geeky gamer that lives at home. Its not OK to pretend to be otherwise, and act like you have a clue about life in the real world. Life isn't Call of Duty or Medal of Honor, your apparent favorite games. But, you being the know-everything kid you are, I doubt you'll see my point.

And if it seems like I'm picking on you - I'm not. I'm just making the forum aware of who you are in real life.

"its a certainty this is you."

I disagree, the only certainty here is that your post is a troll post, that is bumping an off topic post from a closed thread.

please stop, I wouldn't want you to get an infraction.

[countrygun]

Originally Posted by SouthpawG26

CNN just reported the gun to be an XD, 9mm.

Are you saying CNN differentiated between and XD and a Glock?


"Elizabeth, I'm coming to join you, this is the big one!"

[JuneyBooney]

Originally Posted by countrygun

You do understand that a whole lot of people in "PsyOps" don't do anything related to psychology and, in general just do average soldier's jobs?

That is probably more often than people think. The guy probably had money problems. It was obvious that he was trained a little in shooting.

[GlockPistola]

Originally Posted by countrygun

Are you saying CNN differentiated between and XD and a Glock?

"Elizabeth, I'm coming to join you, this is the big one!"

That's because it was actually a LEO who reported this not one of the morons from CNN. The reporter, Erin Burnett (all looks and not much brains, imo) tried to set him up with an indirect question on gun control (sounded pro gun control), but the LEO didn't fall for it.

[SouthpawG26]

Originally Posted by countrygun

Are you saying CNN differentiated between and XD and a Glock?


"Elizabeth, I'm coming to join you, this is the big one!"

Yep. They actually stated that it was, in fact, a Springfield XD, 9mm. Multiple magazines were recovered from the deceased suspect.

They did indeed interview an LEO.

[eyelikeglasses]

Wow, this thread slowed down a lot when relevant questions get brought up.

[ray9898]

Originally Posted by eyelikeglasses

Wow, this thread slowed down a lot when relevant questions get brought up.

No...it slowed down when the usually group showed up to derail it with their vast conspiracy theories based on fantasy.

[eyelikeglasses]

Originally Posted by ray9898

No...it slowed down when the usually group showed up to derail it with their vast conspiracy theories based on fantasy.

Ray, I have a lot of respect for your analyse. But it seems like you only research the partyouy line. It seems like you are a LEO, I'm looking for opposing views, I welcome your thought out responses. But can you really say you have no questions?