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08-22-2012, 16:59
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CLM Number 209
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I would sure as hell be interested in a list!
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08-22-2012, 17:13
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No Infidels!
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Originally Posted by Cochese
I would sure as hell be interested in a list!
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Here it is. Prices have apparently gone up. May be worth shopping around some.
Safariland 774 Competition Rifle Mag Pouches
http://www.copquest.com/23-8155.htm
Although described as "competition" pouches, they are duty-ready, open top kydex with adjustable tension and proper hardware for attachment to the shroud.
Quantity: 3
Total Cost: $76.80
Your choice of:
Safariland 6004-4 - Double Leg Strap Shroud Only
...or...
Safariland 6004-14 - Single Leg Strap Shroud Only
http://www.copquest.com/23-6265.htm
Single or double strap shroud based upon your preference.
Quantity: 1
Total Cost: $12.00
Safariland Thigh Leg Strap for 6004/6005 Holster - Single Strap
http://www.copquest.com/23-6500.htm
One or two of these depending on your preference in shroud.
Quantity: 1 or 2
Total Cost: $14.40 or $28.80
Safariland Complete Vertical Strap and Buckle for 6005 Holster
http://www.copquest.com/23-6385.htm
Pretty self explanatory. Go with the 6005 strap so that you get the QD buckle.
Quantity: 1
Total Cost: $32.00
TOTAL: $135.20 or $149.60
That's still $11 cheaper than buying the complete two strap shroud and the three mag pouches.
Alternatively, if you want to do the one strap, you can buy:
Safariland 6005-10 Small Tactical Leg Shroud w/1 leg strap - Detachable
http://www.copquest.com/23-6225.htm
Quantity: 1
Total Cost: $53.60
and the three magazines for $130.40 and have a one-strap shroud (albeit a slightly different one, I think) and three pouches for $5 less than piecing it together.
I'm actually a bit surprised by how prices have increased. May be worth tracking down a 6004 or 6005 on a forum, swapping the vertical strap for the QD one if necessary, and going from there. The current prices make me wish I would have bought parts to build some spares.
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08-22-2012, 18:44
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Columbia Basin
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pics as requested of my TAG set up
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08-23-2012, 15:59
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Middle TN
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I roll with this:
Its maxpedition with a Quad AR mag pouch.
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08-24-2012, 01:48
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Xtra CoCheese
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Originally Posted by socalchuckster
pics as requested of my TAG set up
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Does this have a molle option to attach to a vest? I've got a tac vest that I'm planning to add hard plates to as well as mags & a first aid kit. This looks like it wouldn't take up too much real estate.
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The other night there was a loud argument in the hall outside my apartment while I was trying to sleep. I went out and told them they better leave or I was gonna use some Kung-Fu... THAT scared them off...
Plus I was totally nekkid and holding a gun.
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08-24-2012, 01:59
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Xtra CoCheese
Join Date: Jan 2000
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cochese
It's also interesting when I attend a shooting school and we have the inevitable "off hand" shooting comps.
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Our dept does a lot of what's affectionately become known as "left handed bull ****". A lot of guys don't like it but a few of us have embraced it. I'm right handed but left eye dominant so it works out okay to switch.
I actually carry my bug in my left side cargo pocket so when we do our bug quals that's where I draw/shoot from. First couple of times I did it & we switched to "weak hand" (which would mean changing to my strong hand if you're following at home) I got yelled at for doing the drill with the "wrong" hand & had to explain.
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The other night there was a loud argument in the hall outside my apartment while I was trying to sleep. I went out and told them they better leave or I was gonna use some Kung-Fu... THAT scared them off...
Plus I was totally nekkid and holding a gun.
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08-24-2012, 08:09
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Join Date: Jun 2007
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I would get a plate carrier. I have one with 3 30 round pmags, 3 extra glock 22 mags, 3 zip cuffs, and a medical kit. I am not "allowed" to wear one either...but I'd love to meet the guy who is going to yell at you for wearing it when rounds start flying...
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08-24-2012, 14:43
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Here's what I have on hand. Scalable of course to fit the situation. At the very minimum, I have two extra handgun magazines on my sam browne. If I need to deploy my rifle, the minimum load out to go with the rifle is a thigh rig with four extra 30 round magazines. If it starts to go sideways, my tac vest has three more 30 round M4 magazines, and two extra handgun magazines. If it gets worse, I have five more 30 rounders and a couple more handgun magazines that I can deploy.
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08-24-2012, 16:43
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St. Cloud Proud
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Free Republic of Texas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cochese
http://www.skdtac.com/HSGI-Drop-Leg-...-p/hsg.307.htm
I carry three pistol mags and a 20 round pmag on my belt.
In light of the **** shows I've been sent to lately, I want to have more available. Something I can throw on in a hurry. Plate carriers for patrol are not an option.
Anyone use one of these guys?
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We use a Blackhawk drop leg. It holds 4 ar mags and snaps into a buckle worn on inner belt. Very fast to throw on. Costs about $40 for the drop leg pouch and $10 for belt adaptor.
http://www.blackhawk.com/product/Ωmega-Elite-M16-Mag-Pouch-Holds-4,122,111.htm
Some guys use 3 pouches for mags and 1 for med supplies like tourn and qc.
Sent from my iPhone... which probably auto-corrected something wrong
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08-24-2012, 17:02
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My question to myself and out loud is how many guys train with their bailout bag? I am liking the thigh idea more and more. Much easier to deal with than a bag that you need to carry on your person somehow and not let it get in the way.
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08-24-2012, 17:04
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ACTA NON VERBA
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Iowa
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Have you thought of going with a drop leg MOLLE platform and then adding FASTMAGs to the platform?
I would think you could get as least 2 probably 3 M4/AR15 mags. You can then add FASTMAG pistol mags to the rifle mag holders.
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08-24-2012, 17:05
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Hook 'Em Up
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: TX
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I'm thinking Jack Bauer man satchel. Effective, stylish, and intimidating.
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08-24-2012, 17:34
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St. Cloud Proud
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Free Republic of Texas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ucop27
My question to myself and out loud is how many guys train with their bailout bag? I am liking the thigh idea more and more. Much easier to deal with than a bag that you need to carry on your person somehow and not let it get in the way.
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I like the thigh pouches a lot. Some of our guys have 2 of the adaptors on their belt. Left side for ar mags and right side for a med supply dump pouch. Very fast to snap on and access once attached.
Sent from my iPhone... which probably auto-corrected something wrong
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08-24-2012, 17:38
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Texas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SAR
Here's what I have on hand. Scalable of course to fit the situation. At the very minimum, I have two extra handgun magazines on my sam browne. If I need to deploy my rifle, the minimum load out to go with the rifle is a thigh rig with four extra 30 round magazines. If it starts to go sideways, my tac vest has three more 30 round M4 magazines, and two extra handgun magazines. If it gets worse, I have five more 30 rounders and a couple more handgun magazines that I can deploy.

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That's a sweet setup! Much Compliments!
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08-24-2012, 17:42
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Senior Member
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As officers do any of you see a time where there would ever be a need for some of these rigs w/ 5+ rifle mags?
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08-24-2012, 17:48
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Fenced In
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: KY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mjkeat
As officers do any of you see a time where there would ever be a need for some of these rigs w/ 5+ rifle mags?
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Considering several on here have responded to active-shooter incidents, including a very recent major one, I'd say, "yes".
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The first round is a moral decision. All of the following rounds are tactical decisions.
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08-24-2012, 18:06
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CJStudent
Considering several on here have responded to active-shooter incidents, including a very recent major one, I'd say, "yes".
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Incidents such as? Just trying to learn. 8 30 round mags seems to be quite a bit from my current perspective.
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08-24-2012, 18:32
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#43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mjkeat
Incidents such as? Just trying to learn. 8 30 round mags seems to be quite a bit from my current perspective.
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Early on in my career, in 1980, I was involved in a bank robbery/pursuit where a Deputy was killed, numerous Deputies and Officers were shot, a helicopter was shot down, and several thousands of rounds of ammunition were fired. Then fast forward to 1997, and deja vu all over again. Again my agency was involved in a band robbery where several thousand rounds were fired, and numerous officers and bystanders were shot. In 1999, again, my agency was involved with an active shooter who shot numerous people at a Jewish Synagogue. And intertwined in those high profile events have been several hundred shootings my agency has been involved in, not with thousands of rounds fired, but many in the hundreds. I was personally present at approximately 20 of them. The last being on December 9, 2012. During that time, I have fired my weapon on duty approximately 12 times, and been shot once. So you're asking me why I carry 12 30 round magazines?
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08-24-2012, 18:36
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CLM Number 209
RIP Adam Yauch
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Unmarked Rustbox
Posts: 15,792
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GumbyDammit
Our dept does a lot of what's affectionately become known as "left handed bull ****". A lot of guys don't like it but a few of us have embraced it. I'm right handed but left eye dominant so it works out okay to switch.
I actually carry my bug in my left side cargo pocket so when we do our bug quals that's where I draw/shoot from. First couple of times I did it & we switched to "weak hand" (which would mean changing to my strong hand if you're following at home) I got yelled at for doing the drill with the "wrong" hand & had to explain. 
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I'm full of left handed bullsheeeet.
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Like I told my last wife, I says, "Honey, I never drive faster than I can see. Besides that, it's all in the reflexes."
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08-24-2012, 18:37
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CLM Number 209
RIP Adam Yauch
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Unmarked Rustbox
Posts: 15,792
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kpuscg04
Have you thought of going with a drop leg MOLLE platform and then adding FASTMAGs to the platform?
I would think you could get as least 2 probably 3 M4/AR15 mags. You can then add FASTMAG pistol mags to the rifle mag holders.
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Another option. I'm open to pretty much anything. I'm liking the one in my OP more and more.
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Like I told my last wife, I says, "Honey, I never drive faster than I can see. Besides that, it's all in the reflexes."
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08-24-2012, 18:57
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CLM Number 209
RIP Adam Yauch
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Unmarked Rustbox
Posts: 15,792
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RetailNinjitsu
I would get a plate carrier. I have one with 3 30 round pmags, 3 extra glock 22 mags, 3 zip cuffs, and a medical kit. I am not "allowed" to wear one either...but I'd love to meet the guy who is going to yell at you for wearing it when rounds start flying...
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I hear ya. The problem is storage and logistics of moving it in and out of my assigned car without a boss seeing it.
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Like I told my last wife, I says, "Honey, I never drive faster than I can see. Besides that, it's all in the reflexes."
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08-24-2012, 19:45
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Midwest
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SAR
Early on in my career, in 1980, I was involved in a bank robbery/pursuit where a Deputy was killed, numerous Deputies and Officers were shot, a helicopter was shot down, and several thousands of rounds of ammunition were fired. Then fast forward to 1997, and deja vu all over again. Again my agency was involved in a band robbery where several thousand rounds were fired, and numerous officers and bystanders were shot. In 1999, again, my agency was involved with an active shooter who shot numerous people at a Jewish Synagogue. And intertwined in those high profile events have been several hundred shootings my agency has been involved in, not with thousands of rounds fired, but many in the hundreds. I was personally present at approximately 20 of them. The last being on December 9, 2012. During that time, I have fired my weapon on duty approximately 12 times, and been shot once. So you're asking me why I carry 12 30 round magazines?
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In these engagements how many rounds did you fire personally? How many rounds did each officer fire on average? How many suspects were involved in each of these engagements?
To be clear I only ask after seeing some of these rigs w/ more extensive load-outs than some of our Infantry guys.
Not questioning the decision just asking.
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08-24-2012, 20:01
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Columbia Basin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GumbyDammit
Does this have a molle option to attach to a vest? I've got a tac vest that I'm planning to add hard plates to as well as mags & a first aid kit. This looks like it wouldn't take up too much real estate.
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The pistol mag pouch fits on any molle system, but the AR mag pouch is actually part of the thigh mount itself. I bet TAG sells the AR shingle pack in a molle version by itself though, or if they don't they might be able to make it for you.
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08-24-2012, 21:06
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STOP RESISTING!
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: In the hood
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mjkeat
As officers do any of you see a time where there would ever be a need for some of these rigs w/ 5+ rifle mags?
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Absolutely.
Why do you feel that I shouldn't?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sheriff733
Did he have a warrant to use that taser?
From what I've learned in the Boston bombing threads, you must always have a warrant. For anything.
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08-24-2012, 21:36
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Bamboozled
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Tx
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Thanks Cheesy, now you got me thinking about ditching my bail out bag for a thigh rig.... Do they make those in Mongo size??
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