[TallPaulSeattle]

Anybody else have this problem? I drop my Gen4 27 magazine and fire the round in the chamber (want to save my pricey defense ammo) and get a stovepipe? Very reliable otherwise and I have stovepiped other glocks. I am familiar with limp wristing - usually this is caused when the web of my hand is not tight in the backstrap. My thought is that without a mag the empty case my flip down a little during extraction?

[PettyOfficer]

Why does it matter? When the magazine is empty the slide locks back.. Without the mag it'll return, but since you're not trying to fire an additional round I don't know if this is a problem looking an answer or not.

[Keoking]

Without the magazine follower or another round below during extraction, the spent case gets pulled straight back. In my G29, sometimes it comes out, sometimes it stove pipes, but most often it drops down the mag well.

[TallPaulSeattle]

Originally Posted by Keoking

Without the magazine follower or another round below during extraction, the spent case gets pulled straight back. In my G29, sometimes it comes out, sometimes it stove pipes, but most often it drops down the mag well.

I thought this was the reason - not a big deal but I like 100% functioning pistols. Again, a stovepipe is easy to clear but this G27 was flawless and I liked it that way! Will still be my primary CC pistol v the Jframe. Hammerless Jframe gets the nod for a true pocket pistol and with light summer garb.

[stinx]

In a 1911 they use this as a test of a guns reliability.They will load 1 round from a magazine,then remove the mag and fire, The gun is supposed to reliably extract and ejecst the empty case. The ability to complete this 50 times is an indication the gun is reliable. On 10-8 forums the discuss this. YMMV

[TallPaulSeattle]

Originally Posted by stinx

In a 1911 they use this as a test of a guns reliability.They will load 1 round from a magazine,then remove the mag and fire, The gun is supposed to reliably extract and ejecst the empty case. The ability to complete this 50 times is an indication the gun is reliable. On 10-8 forums the discuss this. YMMV

Thanks - bottom line is that a jam can happen on ANY auto pistol but be quickly cleared. The revolver/pistol tradeoff will always be debated. I would guess that a 5 shot .357 with a speed strip could serve most CC needs. I guess most of us like to plan for the worst case scenario though right?

[cowboy1964]

Glocks typically drop the empty case through the mag well in this situation, so a jam isn't surprising.

This is a lousy way to "test" self-defense ammo or the gun, if that is the purpose. You test like you will carry.

[TallPaulSeattle]

Originally Posted by cowboy1964

Glocks typically drop the empty case through the mag well in this situation, so a jam isn't surprising.

This is a lousy way to "test" self-defense ammo or the gun, if that is the purpose. You test like you will carry.

Thanks - I agree. Next time I'll shoot the entire magazine like I carry and spend the extra $2. Shooting it once a month I should also just spend the extra coin and practice with self-defense ammo as well.

[Made Man]

That happened to me twice with my Gen4 23, otherwise it works perfect. No big deal to me, I like to shoot my guns with their magazines in them.

[KenInColorado]

Why do you need to drop the magazine before you shoot to save on your expensive defensive rounds? Shoot once, drop the mag, rack the slide to eject the live round, put the live round back in the magazine.