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Old 09-02-2012, 09:00   #26
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Old 09-02-2012, 09:10   #27
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My wife enjoyed shooting my Kahr CW9, but she did notice the very stiff recoil spring.

IMO, I think the Glock is a better firearm (capacity, reliability, etc...), but I think the Kahr is a nice gun especially the CW series. The CW series is more appropriately priced; the P series can get ridiculous. Overall you can't go wrong with either.

I put the Hogue grip on mine and must admit it is one of the most comfortable guns in my hand...
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Old 09-02-2012, 09:10   #28
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Old 09-02-2012, 10:05   #29
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I own both the G26 and the Khar CM9. Not one problem out of either. The Khar does require a break in, with factory rounds no problems. My light match rounds for 9 a few hiccups. Both work great. My wife who owns a 19, is trying to steal my Khar, no interest in the G26.
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Old 09-02-2012, 11:12   #30
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I introduced my girlfriend To shooting and figured that Glock 9mm was the best choice
First we shot a g26 and she looked at me and said this is not for me I hate shooting an had a tear in her eye.
Before we started to get our stuff and leave the range I said hey just try my g19. I loaded up 5 rounds and she started shooting slow and WOW
She said now this I can shoot, she hit 3 bullseyes that day at 10 yards.
For carry maybe a g26 is good for carry but women at the range can use a 17 or 19


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Old 09-02-2012, 11:15   #31
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If she doesn't like it, she won't carry it. She may decide down the road that she likes something else better, but I'd get her whichever she prefers now to get her carrying and shooting.

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Old 09-02-2012, 13:13   #32
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the Kahr is a disposable gun, shoot about 500 rounds through it and it is shot out, ready to toss it. I look at people carrying Kahrs as amateurs
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Old 09-02-2012, 13:33   #33
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Has she racked the slide on the Kahr yet?
Very good point, by the time I broke in my CM9 my hands were like hamburger. It took 300 rounds to get it reliable, never trusted it. Not only are the recoil springs stiff, but the serrations on the slide are very sharp. Kahr mags are very poor quality, rough on the hands again. Not familiar with the Shield, but after a CM9 my 26 felt like a Lexus. If she can handle the thickness of the 26 it is a much better option in my opinion.
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Old 09-02-2012, 16:05   #34
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the Kahr is a disposable gun, shoot about 500 rounds through it and it is shot out, ready to toss it. I look at people carrying Kahrs as amateurs
My experience as well. The first 500 were great, after that it was ready for the landfill.
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Old 09-03-2012, 11:48   #35
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I chose the 26

Chiming in on this thread because I am a woman and I just chose a gen3 g26 over a Kahr CW9. I had researched the single stack 9mm's out there and couldn't find a S&W M&P Shield to save my soul (I'm also a bit wary of buying the very first run of most any product). Failing that I wanted to compare the Kahrs with the Kelt-Tec PM9 and the Ruger LC9. So I drove to the "big city," and checked out a few gun stores.

I'm a Ruger fan, but the LC9 felt like a plastic toy, had a poor grip, a trigger from hell, and safety that is pretty sticky to use. Next up, the Kel-Tec Pm9. No safety, a bit better trigger (all the single stack 9's seem to have DA trigger), but I was just afraid of relying on it due to the many problems reported with spurious mag ejections.

So it came down to the Kahrs. I knew they are built cheaply and aren't built to last, but I reasoned that a carry pistol needn't last for 10,000 rounds anyway. The problem was, I picked one up. I'm sorry but I need to be able to practice a lot with any carry gun before I potentially rely on it for my life (especially so with these DA only triggered pistols). I just cannot imagine putting hundreds of practice rounds through any of these tiny single stack pistols. My hand gets sore with my full-sized 9mm's after an afternoon at the range. I think they'd get bloodied if I tried to shoot one of these tiny pistols for any reasonable practices sessions.

OK, so there's the handling issues, and those pesky potential reliability problems. But it's still "just" a carry pistol. So I am standing at the gun counter with a Kahr CW9 in my hand. Having handled the other pistols I mentioned, I saw a gen3 G26 on the wall and asked the sales guy to let me compare it to the Kahr, mostly just as a "reference point." Alright, the 26 was a ~bit~ bigger in all dimensions, but to my surprise, it seemed to actually be a bit lighter! So, the 26 immediately entered my arena of carry-capable 9mm semi-auto pistols.

As I say, the 26 wasn't even on my radar when I went shopping. But I am standing there with a Kahr CW9 in one hand and a Glock 26 in the other, wondering, "why am I even considering getting a pistol with questionable quality and reliability (and one that I am convinced would be difficult for me to shoot well) over one with a sterling world-wide reputation for quality and reliability when there is such a slight difference in size and weight?" The facts that the 26 was a slight bit fatter (measured in fractions of an inch) and $150 more compared to the slimmer single-stack seemed to diminish greatly when I asked myself that crucial question.

So I came away with that gen3 G26 and have never looked back. In spite of my initial concerns, the short grip is absolutely no problem for me. I added a Pachmayer grip sleeve and I am shooting this little Baby Glock better than I am my full-sized Walther PPQ 9mm. 500 rounds later , it has eaten up everthing I've fed it without a hiccup, and it conceals quite nicely in my purse, too.

The added confidence I now have in the 26 is worth every penny and ounce. I wouldn't trade my G26 for anything!

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Old 09-03-2012, 12:01   #36
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But I am standing there with a Kahr CW9 in one hand and a Glock 26 in the other, wondering, "why am I even considering getting a pistol with questionable quality and reliability (and one that I am convinced would be difficult for me to shoot well) over one with a sterling world-wide reputation for quality and reliability when there is such a slight difference in size and weight?"
Actually the million dollar question right there ^^^. In the end, slight size differences are meaningless when compared to reliability. I completely agree.

The 2 top guns I decided between was the G26 and the S&W Shield 9. I choose the Shield which has been flawless and is holding up perfectly like a Glock. It just came down to preference for my CCW. But I am happy with my G22 and G19 for HD.
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Old 09-03-2012, 12:04   #37
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My girlfriend is buying her first gun

She shot my G26 and liked it but...she is in love with the Kahr since its slimmer ....I told her Glocks are a war tank but you know how women are...lol

Any opinions ??



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I can't convince her to pick up a Shield.

She doesn't like my 36 I carry off duty and she didn't like the feel of the 26.
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Old 09-03-2012, 12:27   #38
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I would let her shoot both then let her decide.
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Old 09-03-2012, 12:48   #39
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is this going to be her carry gun or house gun?

are you going to get her the gun and leave alone without any future assistance in training with it and cleaning it and so on?
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Old 09-04-2012, 04:54   #41
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I suppose some people would swap a G26 of CW9 for a woman and some would swap a woman for a G26 of CW9. I guess it depends on the kind of woman!

The real answer is that it depends on the hand of the woman. All hands vary and she just has to shoot them first. The trouble with that is that she needs to learn to shoot a little first or she can't make an informed judgement.
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Old 09-04-2012, 10:47   #42
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I've had both and still have the 26.... I found the Glock more reliable (never had a problem) and much easier to shoot accurately. There was nothing hugely wrong with the CW, but I couldn't just never warm up to it.

But in the end it will have to be her decision. Big mistake if you try to make it for her!
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Old 09-04-2012, 16:46   #43
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the Kahr is a disposable gun, shoot about 500 rounds through it and it is shot out, ready to toss it. I look at people carrying Kahrs as amateurs
Posts like this confirm that the internet is full of dangerous, misinformed "Pros".
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Old 09-04-2012, 17:23   #44
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I suppose some people would swap a G26 of CW9 for a woman and some would swap a woman for a G26 of CW9. I guess it depends on the kind of woman!

The real answer is that it depends on the hand of the woman. All hands vary and she just has to shoot them first. The trouble with that is that she needs to learn to shoot a little first or she can't make an informed judgement.
This post had a good point in it. Since this is her first gun, maybe she isn't ready yet to choose a specific gun - just needs more time to practice and develop more of an opinion.

We are all trying to give little points to consider, however, who wants someone else to pick our next gun for us. Go and rent a bunch of guns, and let her develop what interests and fits her better. When she is sure what she wants, she will know it and she will be much happier - and you will too.

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Old 09-08-2012, 09:06   #45
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Well....SW Shield seems a perfect combination but getting one is hard....no Gun Store have them...they have to be goood ...

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Old 09-08-2012, 10:32   #46
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She will decide, you will say "yes honey, what ever you want"!
"Exactly", Do NOT forget it will be Her gun.. Kahr makes a Fine product and you can get lighter springs for it...
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Old 09-08-2012, 11:36   #47
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I don't have a Glock mini or a Shield, so can't comment. I do have a Kahr CW9 and a Glock 19 Gen 4 (just bought). I like them both.

I don't know haw many rounds A Kahr CW9 can shoot before needing service, but it is well into the tens of thousands, so I would not call this a "disposable" gun. People have done this. Most people wouldn't shoot it that much as it's not really designed to be a target pistol.

The Kahr is surprisingly comfortable to shoot. The feed ramp is offset, lowering the slide and barrel. That plus the grip design make for good ergos, at least for me. I do have to say that when the polymer framed Kahr's first came out, ten years or so back, I tried them and had major problems. They seem to have ironed them out. The Kahr is a little harder to strip than the Glock, but what isn't? And the Kahr has an amazingly smooth, although somewhat long trigger pull. The slide on the Kahr is not hard to strip, although again not quite as easy as the Glock. The frame on the Kahr is a bear to detail strip. But the good news is you probably would never need to. Spray it out with some Gun Scrubber and relube a couple of points and you're good to go.

The Kahr recoil spring is very stiff. It has to be as the slide weighs very little. And the feed angle is rather steep, so slingshoting the first round is tricky but not impossible. Releasing the slide stop has never failed to chamber a first round for me.

I don't think Kahrs are for everyone. But they are not cheap guns. They are as well made (in the USA) as anything out there I think. Because they are so small and light they do have limitations, but I am happy with mine. I don't expect target pistol accuracy with such a short sight radius, but it will outshoot any snubby I've owned in spades. It's major virtue is its ability to be concealed where few other pistols can be, and its ability to shoot harder and more accurately than anything I know of that is that small and light. I was quite amazed, actually, to see Hickok45 hitting his gong at 80 yards with a PM9, even smaller than the CW9!

Last Summer I bought my Kahr CW9 and a Glock 19 Gen 4 early production. I was unaware of the issues with Gen 4 Glocks - had had a 19 before and assumed it would be OK. I had had serious issues with 4 straight Kahr's ten years ago, and was expecting to have to work to make it work. I was quite surprised when the Kahr ran like a Swiss watch out of the box and the Glock was a jamamatic. I got rid of the Glock - recently got another one of recent manufacture, which has been fine so far.

Don't know if all this rambling will help. The best advise is to have her shoot the guns she is considering before buying anything.
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Old 09-08-2012, 12:34   #48
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G26 or a CW9? I'd think CM9 would be more comparable as both are considered "sub compact" class (G26??? seriously??? LOL). CM9 grip length is VERY close to G26, CW9 grip length is comparable with G19.

If concealment is not a key factor in the consideration, G26 would be a better choice.

I have 26, 19, CM and CW in my rotation.. Kahrs are ONLY for Spring / Summer, Glocks are throughout Fall / Winter... and also Spring/Summer whenever attire allows.

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I don't think Kahrs are for everyone. But they are not cheap guns.
Not any more nowadays... market pressure from Ruger, KelTek, etc.. are eating into their "subcompact 9" market..

CM and CW are now $350 ~ $370 (new) when you shop around. Kahr has "cheapen their cost" by using paperbox, etc...
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Old 09-08-2012, 14:40   #50
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Love my Kahrs...but that was after about 600 rounds of breakin. You need to be committed to that. The plus side is, you get to know the Kahr VERY well. I had a series of feeding and ejection issues until things settled in, now it runs wonderfully. But I wouldnt trust it out of the box without a few hundred rounds through it.
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