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Old 09-23-2012, 09:48   #1
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Where else?

Without debating the politics, focusing on possibilities in the US leads to concerns over the future. We have preps...food, water, financial, protection, etc. But what about another option...leaving?

I know some are ademant...'I will not leave my country'. And having been to some places out of this country, I can say that we have so much that makes this country great. In addition, the best man from my wedding lives in Central America. He's doing very well there. However when the US faulters, he feels it there and is vulnerable to the US economy.

If you believe the US is facing an economic collapse, where could you go where you can earn a living, raise a family, possess firearms for self protection, and enjoy a good buffer from an economic collapse from the US?

Has anyone considered this? Where else? I cannot think of a country that is well buffered from a US economic collapse.
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Old 09-23-2012, 10:29   #2
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Old 09-23-2012, 13:49   #3
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No where else. I won't even leave the South.
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Old 09-23-2012, 13:52   #4
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If I had no family and no moral responsibilities here, I'd be open to the concept. But I have family (more than just my wife & sons), employees, and - to a much lesser degree - clients, that I'm responsible for. May not be legally responsible for the welfare of our employees or clients, but the fact is I'm not legally responsible for most of my family either; just personally feel that I should do as much as I can, for as long as I can, for them.

I've heard some folks mention south- and central-america. If I were thinking along those lines, it would probably be in those areas; but I really haven't given it much thought as it's not an option I've really looked into.
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Old 09-23-2012, 13:55   #5
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For those Boortz listeners, this is something that he's discussed several times lately.
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Old 09-23-2012, 19:04   #6
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my inlaws have discussed this but im of the opinion that ive fought my whole life for whatever is left of this country and wont stop now.
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Old 09-23-2012, 19:52   #7
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It's 1930. Where would you go, even if you had the means?

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Old 09-23-2012, 21:19   #8
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I survived the Cold War, the Soviet Union, the Berlin Wall, Vietnam, 1973 Oil embargo, Y2k, bird flu, mad cow disease, 9/11, anthrax, the patriot act, swine flu, cancer & Obama.

At this stage in my life I'm too old and too ornery to go running anywhere so come hell or high water... here I am and here is where I'm gonna stay!
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Old 09-23-2012, 22:33   #9
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Stay here. This is your country too. Help us get it back.
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Old 09-24-2012, 04:31   #10
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I have been around the world myself. No matter how bad it gets here in the US, I will never this country.
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Old 09-24-2012, 06:56   #11
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I have family up North - as in Canada. I'll be sending the family up there if I sense things getting really hairy. My family network is far greater and less dependent that my wife's family here. 7 hour drive to the border from here if highways/border open.

Other than that fly them out if possible. Fat chance if the S is hitting the F.

I think reality is that things would happen pretty quickly and most of would have to stay put. JMHO.
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Old 09-24-2012, 08:22   #12
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There are very few other places in the world that have our standard of living. Heck even our poor have flat screen TVs and cell phones.

Where could you go where they speak the same language, have a similar standard of living, have gun rights and all the other stuff we take for granted? I am pretty sure the socialism and restrictions in Great Britain, Australia, Europe and the political/institutional corruption in central and south America would drive most of us crazy.

The answer is not to move to another country, the answer is to move to THE country, as in rural America.
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Old 09-24-2012, 08:42   #13
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Without debating the politics, focusing on possibilities in the US leads to concerns over the future. We have preps...food, water, financial, protection, etc. But what about another option...leaving?

I know some are ademant...'I will not leave my country'. And having been to some places out of this country, I can say that we have so much that makes this country great. In addition, the best man from my wedding lives in Central America. He's doing very well there. However when the US faulters, he feels it there and is vulnerable to the US economy.

If you believe the US is facing an economic collapse, where could you go where you can earn a living, raise a family, possess firearms for self protection, and enjoy a good buffer from an economic collapse from the US?

Has anyone considered this? Where else? I cannot think of a country that is well buffered from a US economic collapse.
Unless you are a Native American, every one of us came from somewhere else at some point in our family tree.

Granted some who are African American did not have a choice in the matter to come to the USA, but when Liberia was first formed as a colony for Ex-slaves the vast majority of African American ex-slaves did not volunteer to go back to Africa, even when free passage was offered.

Europe was a pretty rocking place for most Eurpoeans, but war, famine, the lack of economic freedom for those in a lower status, made people want to get out. I can see that happening in the USA. We may get into a situation where things just dry up in the USA. It may become less free, and harder to survive in and for future generations to thrive. In that case, I would definately move my family to another country.

I think as of right now, there is no country so much better than the USA that I would choose to move to now. Granted Austraila, New Zealand, Canada and maybe the UK or Ireland are on my list of options, but it really depends on how bad America is and which country fairs the best after the collapse of the USA.

Right now Canada is the easiest to get to. If the weather is warm enough I could even walk the 400 miles to get there and sneak across the border if it became that desperate. I like New Zealand and Austraila because its farther away from the USA and hopefully not affected from whatever brought the USA down, however it would be harded to get to, much more expensive, and harder to get in.

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Old 09-24-2012, 09:33   #14
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This is our country and I will not abondon it. My brothers and I all served in the military for too many years to give it all away.
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Old 09-24-2012, 10:40   #15
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I can't see myself ever leaving this country.

However for the sake of conversation if I HAD to leave the country for another I would probably choose a central/south american country. If I didn't have to go to a country specifically I would just buy a sailboat and live on it. That solution would have all its on set of unique problems.
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I survived the Cold War, the Soviet Union, the Berlin Wall, Vietnam, 1973 Oil embargo, Y2k, bird flu, mad cow disease, 9/11, anthrax, the patriot act, swine flu, cancer & Obama.

At this stage in my life I'm too old and too ornery to go running anywhere so come hell or high water... here I am and here is where I'm gonna stay!
This is the best answer - (although that last one ain't done with yet, I am afraid)..and this is my answer as well.

I have lived here during the good times, I imagine it's worth defending.

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I don't understand why some people are talking about defending or fighting when the OP is talking about a economic collapse.

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I survived the Cold War, the Soviet Union, the Berlin Wall, Vietnam, 1973 Oil embargo, Y2k, bird flu, mad cow disease, 9/11, anthrax, the patriot act, swine flu, cancer & Obama.

At this stage in my life I'm too old and too ornery to go running anywhere so come hell or high water... here I am and here is where I'm gonna stay!
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