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10-06-2012, 15:18
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Tewwowist
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Originally Posted by hamster
The Amish guy who custom built our kitchen cabinets has a cell phone, but still wont' drive. Go figure.
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Gotta stay in touch with the honeys
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Originally Posted by 4949shooter
You have been identified as an anti authority figure.
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10-06-2012, 18:56
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Location: Huskerville
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Had the DEA ask for my birthdate and SSN last week based on a site visit several weeks ago. I have no part on a DEA registration, but maintain the registration in a file, and we hold no controlled substances, but would in an emergency, and not under my name. My agency basically told them to pound sand under state regulations regarding disclosure of employee information.
Point being, guard your SSN. Just another avenue for it to be
released.
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We are told by our government NOT to judge Muslims by the actions of a few crazies. We are also told by this same government TO judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few crazies.
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10-06-2012, 19:07
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Location: Georgia
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Tattoo of ID number on left wrist would solve the problem.
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10-06-2012, 20:01
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GTDS Delivery
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Concord, NH
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I googled my own ss number and found a site called xdd.org. I started to freak out because it listed someone on there under my ss number, and gave all kinds of information on them. A friend of mine just informed me that it's a site that posts misinformation to try and trip up identity thieves.
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10-06-2012, 20:05
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Firm member
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Where the buffalo roam
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Originally Posted by TheExplorer
I feel everyone should have a picture form of id on them.
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Do you really think that everyone should be forced to carry papers? HH
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10-06-2012, 20:07
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Quote:
Originally Posted by napp32
Tattoo of ID number on left wrist would solve the problem. 
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Why stop there? Let's bring back the yellow mogen david patch. HH
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10-06-2012, 20:28
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Location: Orlando, FL
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Originally Posted by HollowHead
the 24th...the shortest and clearest of all ammendments.
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And probably the most damaging to this country.
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10-06-2012, 20:32
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Originally Posted by CitizenOfDreams
And probably the most damaging to this country.
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How so? Should you have to pay to vote? HH
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10-06-2012, 21:10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HollowHead
How so? Should you have to pay to vote? HH
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Yes. Not necessarily with money, but you should spend some effort to cast your vote.
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10-06-2012, 21:40
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Drifting Cowboy
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Illinois
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheExplorer
PA is spending hundreds of thousands on overturning the ID law, but I personally think it's good. I feel everyone should have a picture form of id on them.
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Seriously?
Wow.
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10-06-2012, 21:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CitizenOfDreams
Yes. Not necessarily with money, but you should spend some effort to cast your vote.
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Would the same apply to bearing arms? That, too is a COTUS guaranteed right. HH
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10-06-2012, 22:21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HollowHead
Would the same apply to bearing arms? That, too is a COTUS guaranteed right.
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Yes, only those who can afford a weapon should own and carry one. The government is not (and should not be) under obligation to provide them for free just because it's a "right".
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10-06-2012, 22:25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CitizenOfDreams
Yes, only those who can afford a weapon should own and carry one. The government is not (and should not be) under obligation to provide them for free just because it's a "right".
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Let's get back to the original discussion. Should you have to pay a fee to bear arms? HH
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10-06-2012, 23:22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HollowHead
Let's get back to the original discussion. Should you have to pay a fee to bear arms? HH
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No, I don't see such a fee as necessary. The cost of owning a weapon and the burden of applying for and maintaining your carry licence should be enough.
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10-06-2012, 23:34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CitizenOfDreams
...the burden of applying for and maintaining your carry licence should be enough.
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Why should you be charged to exercise a right in the first place? HH
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10-06-2012, 23:46
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HollowHead
Why should you be charged to exercise a right in the first place? HH
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Why should you not be charged? Having a right to do something is not the same as having a right to do it for free.
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10-07-2012, 21:15
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Armed Citizen
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Location: SoFla... want to move to America.
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24th- The right of citizens of the United States to vote in any primary or other election for President or Vice President, for electors for President or Vice President, or for Senator or Representative in Congress, shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or any State by reason of failure to pay any poll tax or other tax.
Damn.  There goes my favorite "if you don't pay taxes you should not get a vote in electing those who will decide how to spend those taxes" argument.
Seriously, though. We have gone overboard on extending voting rights. And encouraging the politically disconnected (the low-information voter the pundits keep referencing) to get out and vote is just irresponsible. Making voting easier does the same. Encourage them to pay attention, voting will follow as a result. Of course some people are deeply into politics and still vote to further grease the skids.
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Reason: added last paragraph
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10-07-2012, 22:04
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Master Member
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Melbourne, Florida, USA
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Originally Posted by bonehead098
In Florida I have to show my voter ID & a government issued photo {DL or CCW or state issued ID } to vote. They won't let me vote without proving who I am.
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But, you do NOT have to show ID to vote with an absentee ballot in Florida. And, since you do not have to show ID to register to vote ... do the math.
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Right is right, even if no one is doing it, and wrong is wrong, even if everyone is doing it.
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10-08-2012, 14:41
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Location: Florida
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 686Owner
Amish don't have SSN.
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OMG, they vote ?
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10-08-2012, 16:16
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NRA Life Member
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: KY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CitizenOfDreams
Yes, only those who can afford a weapon should own and carry one. The government is not (and should not be) under obligation to provide them for free just because it's a "right".
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I agree...here's some changes we should make
5th amendment - If you don't want police to search your car for no reason, you should pay them $100.
6th - If you want a speedy trial, you should have to pay for it. Poor people should rot in prison before they get a trial.
13th - Slavery...bring it back! Don't want to be a slave? Pay up!
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10-08-2012, 22:36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 686Owner
I agree...here's some changes we should make
5th amendment - If you don't want police to search your car for no reason, you should pay them $100.
6th - If you want a speedy trial, you should have to pay for it. Poor people should rot in prison before they get a trial.
13th - Slavery...bring it back! Don't want to be a slave? Pay up!
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Well, that's pretty much how it works in real life.
If you don't want the police to search your car, you better be able to afford the legal expenses your refusal will incur.
Having bail money may not make the trial any speedier, but at least you will be waiting for it in the comfort of your home.
Slavery... I'm not ready to open that can of worms yet.
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10-08-2012, 23:06
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Isaiah 53:4-9
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Location: Texas
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It won't work. If you want to keep illegal aliens from voting, it won't work at all. How many of them have taken someone else's SSN and identifty to try to work here illegally and then try go gain a benefit by stealing an identity. Lots of them.
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10-08-2012, 23:17
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Senior Member
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Location: East Houston
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That SS# was never supposed to be used for anything but SS. Now it's the "Taxpayer Identification Number" and was even used on some driver licenses.
I used to roll lots of coins from a soda vending venture and the bank tried to make me put my SS# and account # on each roll. I told them to buzz off!
I would resist any further use of our SS numbers for identification.
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10-09-2012, 05:33
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NRA Life Member
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Location: KY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CitizenOfDreams
Well, that's pretty much how it works in real life.
If you don't want the police to search your car, you better be able to afford the legal expenses your refusal will incur.
Having bail money may not make the trial any speedier, but at least you will be waiting for it in the comfort of your home.
Slavery... I'm not ready to open that can of worms yet.
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At least we know where you stand.
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