Gen4 Glock 32 Failure to feed. - Page 2

voyager4520 · 10-09-2012, 06:54

The fact that your followers are marked .357/10 and "2" is strange, that sounds more like a 10-round magazine designation for followers.

From the latest Glock parts list:

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SP 01593-2 Magazine Follower - .357 9-rd, 11-rd, 13-rd, & 15-rd mags only - current follower is marked .357 & 2
SP 01009 Magazine Follower - .357 10-rd G31-G32 mags only - marked .357/10 & 1

Perhaps there's a new 10-round follower marked ".357/10 2" instead of ".357/10 1" that Glock accidentally put into your magazines. Still I would try different ammo first.

dpadams6 · 10-09-2012, 07:21

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Originally Posted by davsco

sorry to hear of your problems. i just shot my gen 4 g32 for the first time last weekend. two boxes of fed fmj and a box of gold dots. only issue was the slide not locking back after each mag was dry, could be the aftermarket extended slide release i put on. it definitely works to release the slide.

other than that, zero issues, worked just as great as i expected.

There has been others here reporting problems with that extended slide release. Why I would always keep everything STOCK for ccw

dpadams6 · 10-09-2012, 07:22

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Originally Posted by hamster

Well I finally got to the range with my Gen4 G32. Unfortunately it was a complete nightmare and I don't yet understand what is going on.

The Pistol: Gen 4 Glock 32, August 2012 build date. Came with 3 ambi-cut mags with a follower marked #2 .357/10

The Ammo: Georgia Arms Speer GDHP.

Eager to unleash some .357 at the paper target, I loaded my first mag with 10 rounds of the Georgia arms GDHP. The first round chambered with no problems. Fired nicely and extracted. Thats when the problems started. The next round got hung up on the bottom of the feed-ramp and never fed out of the magazine. So I drop the mag, make sure all the rounds are seated... rince and repeat. Same problem over and over.

Finally I tried the other mags. All three mags exhibited the same behavior. Interestingly, when I hand cycle the mag, everything extracts and feeds properly.

When I got home, I measured the cartridges from Georgia arms and found them to be ever so slightly longer than some Winchester PDX1s I had laying around possibly out of spec?

Unfortunately I didn't have any other style mags or ammo to try on this first outing with the G32.
Anyone have similar experiences? Any ideas?

very odd for a 32 to have problems. I would try other ammo before blaming your 32.

dpadams6 · 10-09-2012, 07:27

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Originally Posted by dkf

The Speer factory Gold Dot ammo (both 53918 and 54234) are loaded to a OAL of 1.125". The Speer Gold Dot .357sig bullets are some of the hardest to feed because of the wide HP cavity. Federal HSTs, Hornady XTPs, pretty much all FMJs and etc feed smoother than Gold Dots. The HST is the best feeder I have shot through my sig guns.

The SAAMI max OAL for the .357sig is 1.140". I loaded some of my .357sig reloads to test with a new bullet and set them out to 1.150" and a few would hang up on the feed ramp on a gun that never malfunctioned before. Thus I found where OAL affects reliability, thus I shortened the OAL up.

Both my G32 and G33 have the newer barrels with the narrower feed ramp and the #2 followers and have had not malfunctions (other than my long OAL test reloads) Try some FMJ like Speer Lawman, S&B, Federal and etc to see if you have issues. The variation in OAL on the rounds you posted seems very large to me. I try to keep my reloads better than +- .003" variation from the targeted OAL.

Very true regarding gold dots. My Dept. Was starting to have problems with the gold dots hanging up on the feed ramp when we switched from sig to glock 31 gen4. Tested hst and not one problem. Switched to the hst and very happy. Excellent round in 357sig

Fellix369 · 10-09-2012, 09:05

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Originally Posted by hamster

They were 13 rounders.

I'm not not an expert by any means, but why do your 13 round mags have followers designed for 10 round mags?

hamster · 10-09-2012, 10:18

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Originally Posted by Fellix369

I'm not not an expert by any means, but why do your 13 round mags have followers designed for 10 round mags?

I'll post a photo of the followers when I get some time later.

TxGlock9 · 10-09-2012, 11:36

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Originally Posted by hamster

Did the same happen with other rounds as well? What did you replace the G32 with?

With the Gen3 G32 I shot Winchester white box and WWB jhp, GA arms ammo, and Gold dot HP. They all jammed with the exception of the GD's but that's because I only shot about 10 rounds through it. That was enough for me to not want the G32 any longer.

On the other hand the G22 with 31 barrel did absolutely fine with GA arms ammo. Go figure.

I didn't replace the G32 with anything. I just got rid of it. I only shoot 9mm and 45acp now.

k9storm2003 · 10-10-2012, 13:24

I also have a Glock 32 Gen 4 that was manufactured in August 2012. My magazine followers are marked .357/3. They are 13 rd magazine. I also have been using Georgia Arms FMJ rounds without any problems.

Ben B · 10-11-2012, 11:43

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Originally Posted by hamster

I'm going to try a different brand of ammo because as has been said, that is my #1 suspect. Probably their round nose stock still would have been fine, but with the GDHP, the out of spec just plain causes failures.

I will say, this is the worst experience I've ever had with any handgun/ammo combination and has shaken my confidence in the pistol even though logically I know it is most likely not at fault. I will have to shoot at least 300 rounds without a hiccup before I'd feel comfortable carrying it at this point. This experience just goes to prove how critical it is to test HP carry loads as well as practice loads... you just never know.

Now I just need to find 300 reasonably priced .357 sig rounds.

Underwood ammo. I use them for target and self defense rounds. Both have been flawless and powerful loads. The self defense rounds are new cases.

tacticalG23 · 10-11-2012, 17:55

I would suggest a Nub removal from the magazine if the mag has them. To check you just push down the follower and look at the steel walls under the feed lips inside the magazine. Should be triangular polymer nubs on both sides.
I had misfeeds originally with mine, read a thread a few months back on failures to feed, shaved those nubs off with a sharp blade, feeding flawlessly ever since. /runonsentence

Found a pic from a different thread. http://i51.tinypic.com/2a649he.jpg

hamster · 10-13-2012, 12:57

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Originally Posted by tacticalG23

I would suggest a Nub removal from the magazine if the mag has them. To check you just push down the follower and look at the steel walls under the feed lips inside the magazine. Should be triangular polymer nubs on both sides.
I had misfeeds originally with mine, read a thread a few months back on failures to feed, shaved those nubs off with a sharp blade, feeding flawlessly ever since. /runonsentence

Found a pic from a different thread. http://i51.tinypic.com/2a649he.jpg

Thanks. If the ammo doesn't work I will try the nubectomy.

voyager4520 · 10-13-2012, 13:16

You don't have to follow the specific instructions in that nub removal picture. You can shave them down any way you like, you can remove them entirely if you need to.

Giggity-Giggity · 10-13-2012, 13:38

Change ammo.

dgbee456 · 10-14-2012, 23:33

let us know..

I bought a used G32 with a 2004 serial number.

It has that less rounded feed ramp and I only put 150 rounds through it and I did have a round seem to nose dive and Failure to Feed.

I was thinking it might be old mags from 2003 but they do have the 2 Follower.