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Old 10-29-2012, 13:17   #61
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He's ignoring that little jewel of history.
Would you like to make some kind of little friendly wager on this ? Perhaps focus it on "high capacity" magazines?

If there is a restriction/ban on "high capacity" magazines, assuming a grandfather clause as has been the case in the past, I'll ship you a full capacity 9mm Glock magazine (G19/G17), or AR15 magazine (30 round PMAG).

If there isn't, after say 1 year, you ship me two of the above.

(2:1 since value obvious skyrockets if no new ones can be made/sold)
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Old 10-29-2012, 14:29   #62
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Why?

And why do you not move?
I agree that there will be no ban.

I happen to love where I live and don't need a huge arsenal to feel confident.

Regarding evacuating, consider how many people are affected by hurricane Sandy. How many firearms and ammunition are going to nearly useless from salt water flooding?

Do as you wish. I've been thru it and know better.
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Old 10-29-2012, 14:34   #63
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I agree that there will be no ban.

I happen to love where I live and don't need a huge arsenal to feel confident.

Regarding evacuating, consider how many people are affected by hurricane Sandy. How many firearms and ammunition are going to nearly useless from salt water flooding?

Do as you wish. I've been thru it and know better.
Very few?
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Old 10-29-2012, 14:42   #64
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Would you like to make some kind of little friendly wager on this ? Perhaps focus it on "high capacity" magazines?

If there is a restriction/ban on "high capacity" magazines, assuming a grandfather clause as has been the case in the past, I'll ship you a full capacity 9mm Glock magazine (G19/G17), or AR15 magazine (30 round PMAG).

If there isn't, after say 1 year, you ship me two of the above.

(2:1 since value obvious skyrockets if no new ones can be made/sold)
I can't take that bet because it likely wont happen in a year's time. If/when it does happen, Obama may no longer be in office, but his justices will.
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Old 10-29-2012, 15:04   #65
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I can't take that bet because it likely wont happen in a year's time. If/when it does happen, Obama may no longer be in office, but his justices will.
Wow.

Why the sudden 180 in your position?
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Old 10-29-2012, 15:05   #66
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Obama getting something passed through the house/senate is not something that would happen at this time. However, who's to say that he doesn't sign an executive order that could take god knows how long to fight in court.

Also, like i said before along with others. Magazines and Lowers. You can buy a couple LPKs and do it yourself it's really not that hard.

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If it looks like 0 might get back in you ain't going to find stripped lowers, LPKs, or mags in-stock very easily.
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Old 10-29-2012, 15:49   #68
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Wow.

Why the sudden 180 in your position?
No change in opinion here, I never said it would happen within a year, though it damn sure could. I still believe it will happen, I'm just not sure when. The fruits of Obama's second term (if elected) will be drilling the USA in the ass for years to come.


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That must be why they passed that AWB everybody was predicting when they had control after 2008.
exactly..

guns are a hot button topic and most elected officals are not willing to loose several hundred thousand votes locally and millions of votes nationally in order to placate a fringe group of anti's. They have already learned that lesson last time around.

folks, you can quite worrying about some UN treaty effecting our Constitution. Nobody is going to raise their hand to vote affirmative on that one. There were so many red lines drawn by the USA last time, that it made it impossible to include us.
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Old 10-29-2012, 16:15   #70
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Very few?
no, most would be. salt water is very corrosive. I live on the coast and everything I own needs constant maintenence. most metals left immersed in salt water will corrode fairly quickly.
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no, most would be.
I don't think most firearms will be underwater.
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Looking at the photos of the flooding unless they are in the attic, they are under water!
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There is an overlooked aspect of the "one more vote" fear. The two judges most likely to be replaced in the next presidential term are part of the MINORITY opinions on Heller and McDonald. Replacing THEM would not shift the decisions. The third most likely, Scalia, would shift the court if he were replaced by a leftist judge. The current president, if reelected, is still limited in capacity to damage RKBA.

You can razz your leftwing friends with this: Roberts and Alito are part of the cost of Bill Clinton costing Gore the 2000 election. If the left hates guns in civilian hands, THEIR president made those two court decisions happen.
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Looking at the photos of the flooding unless they are in the attic, they are under water!
If you can't move your firearms with days of advance notice, and you live right next to the coast...too bad so sad, maybe you'll learn from your mistake.
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There is an overlooked aspect of the "one more vote" fear. The two judges most likely to be replaced in the next presidential term are part of the MINORITY opinions on Heller and McDonald. Replacing THEM would not shift the decisions. The third most likely, Scalia, would shift the court if he were replaced by a leftist judge. The current president, if reelected, is still limited in capacity to damage RKBA.

You can razz your leftwing friends with this: Roberts and Alito are part of the cost of Bill Clinton costing Gore the 2000 election. If the left hates guns in civilian hands, THEIR president made those two court decisions happen.
You are correct, it wouldn't **** the decision if Ginsberg or Breyer were replaced by a liberal but it would extend their legacy, or maybe worse.

Just imagine being able to replace Ginsberg or Breyer with a conservative 35year old justice. Oh what a glorious day. If something happened to Scalia, we'd be screwed.

It would also be nice to have another pro gun justice on the court (6-3) with a loose cannon like Roberts, who might change his mind on the issue tomorrow.


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Old 10-29-2012, 18:11   #76
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So what in the Hell are we supposed to be panic buying again?
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So what in the Hell are we supposed to be panic buying again?
Anything you need to continue to run anything that you feel might be threatened by political/governmental action.

Ammo, mags, spare parts and the like.
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Warp, LOL you truly are warped!
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So what in the Hell are we supposed to be panic buying again?
.45 GAP stuff. Huge demand for it.
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I would buy these:
gas rings/McFarland one piece gas ring
springs
extractor w/spring and pin
spare bolt complete
P-mags
ammo and or reloading components
in that order.
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