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Old 11-04-2012, 13:44   #1
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What 1911 is this??

Traded a ruger p95 for this 1911 today at a local gunshow! No markings what so ever on it besides the serial number?

http://imageshack.us/a/img203/8030/2...4143531150.jpg

http://imageshack.us/photo/photo/267/20121104143549247.jpg

It has what appears to be a GI frame? Because it has the lanyard ring on the bottom of the fram by the magwell. But it doesnt have any slide markings or anything. And has hogue grips . Thats it. Any help is appreciated!


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Old 11-04-2012, 15:09   #2
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Traded a ruger p95 for this 1911 today at a local gunshow! No markings what so ever on it besides the serial number?

http://imageshack.us/a/img203/8030/2...4143531150.jpg

http://imageshack.us/photo/photo/267...4143549247.jpg

It has what appears to be a GI frame? Because it has the lanyard ring on the bottom of the fram by the magwell. But it doesnt have any slide markings or anything. And has hogue grips . Thats it. Any help is appreciated!


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How did any paperwork get done without a brand name?

The picture was of no help.

You traded a Ruger p-95 for it? No brand?

Sounds like a kitchen table Franken11
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Old 11-04-2012, 15:19   #3
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No paperwork required at the gun show. Yep traded a decently used P95 blued for it. The guy said it was a rock arsenal. Which I am guessing he meant Rock Island. Got the pistol, 6 mags, holster and ammo for it, so figured I would take a chance on it. FWIW I shot it a little bit ago and it works flawlessly lol...
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Old 11-04-2012, 15:31   #4
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No paperwork required at the gun show. Yep traded a decently used P95 blued for it. The guy said it was a rock arsenal. Which I am guessing he meant Rock Island. Got the pistol, 6 mags, holster and ammo for it, so figured I would take a chance on it. FWIW I shot it a little bit ago and it works flawlessly lol...
Hmm I don't keep up with the latest trends so i don't know who is making 1911s without putting their names on them but I know that slides are available, most from the Phillipines, that lack markings. But that photo wasn't much to go on.


Of course I have always held, since the first time I built a 1911 from parts decades ago, that it didn't take a ton of money to build a 1911 that would work. I recently helped a young man in my neighborhood do just that.
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Old 11-04-2012, 15:37   #5
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The full name is Rock Island Arsenal so I assume it's them. They go $3-400 new, yours, not as much.


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Old 11-04-2012, 15:48   #6
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The logo on the grip doesn't look like that of Rock Island Arsenal. I couldn't read it but there may be a clue in that grip.

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Old 11-04-2012, 15:48   #7
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That's true, but grips can be changed.

I found this article:

http://www.gundigest.com/gun-collecting-firearm-collecting/1911-before-the-great-war/3

The gun in the photo has similar markings for it's serial number. It doesn't mentioned the brand but just states the photo is courtesy of Rock Island Auctions.

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Old 11-04-2012, 16:17   #8
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Hmmm I am guessing it is a franken rock island then. The logo on the grip is hogue. They are aftermarket hogue grips. Its really only going to be used as a range/fun gun anyways. Not going to be carried or anything. So I am not too upset about it. I was just curious on if anyone had any ideas on it.

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Old 11-04-2012, 16:28   #9
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It should be a good range gun, let us know how it performs. Although now you have to spend more money on .45 ACP lol.


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Old 11-04-2012, 16:33   #10
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That is not a Rock Island Armory.
Take the grips off, any markings under there?
Never seen one without maker markings. Most likely a Franken-pistol
from the seventies. I would have kept the Ruger.
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Old 11-04-2012, 16:39   #11
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That's true, but grips can be changed.

I found this article:

http://www.gundigest.com/gun-collect...he-great-war/3

The gun in the photo has similar markings for it's serial number. It doesn't mentioned the brand but just states the photo is courtesy of Rock Island Auctions.

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The 1911 in the article is a 1911 model. The OP has a 1911A1 model frame.
It is not even close,......Rock Island Auctions is a Auction House
not a firearms manufacturer!
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Old 11-04-2012, 16:49   #12
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Lol, I was just doing Google image search of 1911s in order to find one that has similar serial number markings as the OP. I stated in my post that the article does not state the make of that particular 1911. No need to yell! Haha.


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Old 11-04-2012, 17:12   #13
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Under the right side grip there is a stamp that says A.R. sales co
So. Monte CA.
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Old 11-04-2012, 17:41   #14
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Under the right side grip there is a stamp that says A.R. sales co
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This link may help you: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=107989


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Old 11-04-2012, 17:52   #15
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.......... No need to yell! Haha.


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Old 11-04-2012, 17:55   #16
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Lol!

Reminds me of this:

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Old 11-04-2012, 18:00   #17
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No markings what so ever on it besides the serial number.
It's obviously an early model NN made by Guncrafter Industries...
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Old 11-04-2012, 19:23   #18
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Looks like the start of a custom 1911. LOL
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How did any paperwork get done without a brand name?
I bought an old, unmarked Mauser style rifle. They listed it as Unidentified.
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Old 11-04-2012, 19:58   #20
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I bought an old, unmarked Mauser style rifle. They listed it as Unidentified.
I realize that category exists but I have a hard time thinking about trading a Ruger off on a 1911 that fits in that category, unless I knew a lot about 1911s and REALLY wanted one.

I'm glad it turned out well for the OP. I might have gambled and bought it outright as a build base.
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