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Old 11-10-2012, 14:54   #141
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That's true. They give you a job if you can't find one. They're all in it together. I'm OK with that.
Government doesn't give jobs. Jobs have to be created. The only way government can "give" a job is to take one from someone else.
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Old 11-10-2012, 14:59   #142
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The "ministry of information" conveniently postponed some info til after the election, but it shows how well the recovery is going..........taken from ZH:

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This time the USDA delayed its release nine days past the semi-official deadline, far past the election, and until Friday night to report August foodstamp data. One glance at the number reveals why: at 47.1 million, this was not only a new all time record, but the monthly increase of 420,947 from July was the biggest monthly increase in one year. One can see why a reported surge in foodstamps ahead of the elections is something the USDA, and the administration may not have been too keen on disclosing.
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Old 11-10-2012, 21:35   #143
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A new era of prosperity is here now that Obama has rightfully secured his place.


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Old 11-11-2012, 04:54   #144
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Tell them the truth. Tell them your company's bottom line is more important their their fiscal and emotional well being.
You really have no clue how venture capitalism works.

I have offered to let you invest. Why donot you put up some money or is YOUR bottom line more important their their fiscal and emotional well being?

If YOUR bottom line is more important their their fiscal and emotional well being then you are just as greedy and bad as you claim they are.

So, again, my offer for you to invest, and I will promise you no return, but you will help people fiscal and emotional well being. Either put up, or shut up.
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Old 11-11-2012, 05:01   #145
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This wouldn't happen in a well run socialists government.
Over the weekend, I had a discussion about this with a colleague that lived in the German Democratic Republic.

It very interesting how the people who actually lived this have a much different opinion than you. The general opinion is socialism cannot exist without government violence against its system and living in fear of prison/torture/death for not agreeing. Maybe if you were 2% as smart and educated as you claim, you would actually talk with someone who lived through this.

But lets ask you the question a different way. How many people were killed trying to go from the German Democratic Republic to the Federal Republic of Germany? How many people were killed trying to go from the Federal Republic of Germany to the German Democratic Republic? Please explain the non-unilateral migration from the two countries. Why did a wall, with guard towers, land mines, etc exist between them?
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Old 11-11-2012, 05:10   #146
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It's not perfect, but it's working. Germany survived the recent economic mess better than many countries. It's working in spite of the fact that they absorbed massive immigration from the collapsing Soviet Union and are currently absorbing massive immigration from Turkey. We should take a hard look at what Germany is doing.
This shows your ignorance.

1) There is very little immigration from Turkey to germany. The turks came a long time ago when labor was short after the war. Most turks have been in Germany generations now.

2) There is not much immigration from Russia. Russia is not part of the EU and Russians cannot easily get work permits. Russians are not hired. There is not a singkle russian where I work.

3) Germany is a capitalist country, not a socialist country. They just have higher taxes. In fact, did you realize there is not even a minimum wage law in Germany? Maybe you should go into the parking lot of a German company and see the cars. It is just like American companies. You can mostly tell what job level a person has by what they drive.

You talk about what you dont even know about.

But tell us your expertise. When is the last time you worked in Germany for a German company? I have no problem with this. I was at work Friday in Germany and then also not in the office but working on Saturday (of course this was in Switzerland). But today, I am back in Germany.
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Old 11-11-2012, 05:13   #147
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That's true. They give you a job if you can't find one. They're all in it together. I'm OK with that.
The German government doesnt give people jobs.

Again, you are ignorant. Hiring occurs in Germany just like in the USA. Interviews. Finding qualified people. Etc. In fact, it is typically easier to fire an employee in Germany than the USA because there are not all the discrimination lawsuits.
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Old 11-11-2012, 07:00   #148
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There was a weird situation a few years ago with a woman who refused a job as a prostitute (which is legal in Germany) and they ended her unemployment because she didn't take a job that she was qualified for.
At least the German government isn't encumbered by any Judeo-Christian morality. Thank goodness for secularism.

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Old 11-11-2012, 07:23   #149
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Old 11-11-2012, 07:40   #150
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DanaT and Happyguy make me smile.
You know why he is SO upset. He doesnt have a case of Rothaus Eiszaefple next to him. I think what I will do is explore some socialism. Maybe I can tell them that we should all be equal and they will sell me the big schnitzel cordon bleu, for the price of the "small" one (the small one is about 24 ozs).
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Old 11-11-2012, 07:43   #151
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You know why he is SO upset. He doesnt have a case of Rothaus Eiszaefple next to him. I think what I will do is explore some socialism. Maybe I can tell them that we should all be equal and they will sell me the big schnitzel cordon bleu, for the price of the "small" one (the small one is about 24 ozs).
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Right now, I am watching zdfInfo.

It is about the German Democratic Republic, the border, how they shot anyone, and a family that managed to escape on a boat. Interesting to see a 30 year woman talking about how as a kid she would have been killed if the police would have found them.

They are showing Stasi films in this.

Maybe muskogee should watch this film to see what a "well rn socialist country" was really like.

http://info.zdf.de/ZDF/zdfportal/pro...3?doDispatch=1
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My wife is from Germany.
I seriously doubt this is a true statement, I highly suspect you are saying this to have some "credibility"

But IF she is, she should understand this.



Why dont you give a short summary how the people who lived there describe their well run socialist country, the German Democratic Republic, treated them and how good life was. You wife should be able to help you understand it if she is actually German.
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Old 11-11-2012, 16:06   #154
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Muscogee is a university Admin. So that explains some of his insane thought paths. Even his nick ( muscogee ) strikes a chord with me. Why isn't he in the the Muscogee Creek Capital living the dream? I bet he claims Creek Blood. But has turned his back on his Creek Nation.

Muscogee, Clinton never turned back the debt clock so to speak. He just figured out a way to make it look good in the press you moron. You speak of Clinton as a God. He is one of the worse SOB's to ever walk the earth. He is even hated now in his home state of Arkansas. Hillybilly's and Delta folks alike hate his ass. And it's hard for those two to agree on anything in Arkansas. I know because I'm a hillbilly. Only the give me a hand out blacks like him and his NY wife was never liked by anybody. The crap Clinton pulled in Arkansas as Gov. and the crap he pulled in Washington has left him as a marked man in his home state. He is not even safe in Hope. He only sneaks into his library in Little Rock. And then it's only with the cover of night. And straight to his love nest atop of the Clinton Library.

Your such a Lib. Turd it's not even funny.

The owner of the Co. I work for has not been seen since the election. And only one brown noser has spoken with or communicated with him. Due back in the office this Tuesday. He fired a over educated idiot two weeks ago. Great guy, but couldn't think outside of the over educated idiot box. Do I think heads will roll come Tuesday. No,,,, we are already way understaffed and under paid except for two paper pushers. And making record profits. He could sell the Company. But only 3 employees would stay if that happened. It's nice to be of value during this time in whats left of America.

I have been privileged to see the Obummer backlash from east to west in my own family. From family that lost everything because of Sandy to family on the left coast that have finally woke up and see no future out there. To family in the Great Lakes Rust Belt. There all out and coming home to Oklahoma and Arkansas. We may not make the big bucks here. But we will survive. Family is coming home. And with there exodes, comes great talent and work ethic's.

We are also feeling the Obummer backlash here in Oklahoma and Arkansas. One of my cousins saw the Company she works for stop in it's track Friday. They went to a hiring freeze. 75% of there standing orders were cancelled in a 8 hour time frame. 50% of those orders were outside of the USA. Export orders dried up for them with the dumb-o-crat vote.

At my place of work. We had orders cancelled. And request for pricing protection on other order's not canceled. So if we honor the orders we lose money on the coming price increase's in steel, cast iron and bronze. Look for raw materials to double in price over the next 3 months. You thought food was high now. Just weight. Not even Archer Danial's or any of the other major Corp. farming Co's will be able to repair or replace combines and other implements. And we use to make the best farming equipment in the world.

Obummers election to a second term is already destroying the country. The next employment numbers will be bad. And it will only get worse. The blue states can eat **** and die!!!!!

All your going to have left is unions that cost to much, and a ton of welfare want to be's.
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Old 11-11-2012, 18:38   #155
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Muscogee is a university Admin. So that explains some of his insane thought paths. Even his nick ( muscogee ) strikes a chord with me. Why isn't he in the the Muscogee Creek Capital living the dream? I bet he claims Creek Blood. But has turned his back on his Creek Nation.

Muscogee, Clinton never turned back the debt clock so to speak. He just figured out a way to make it look good in the press you moron. You speak of Clinton as a God. He is one of the worse SOB's to ever walk the earth. He is even hated now in his home state of Arkansas. Hillybilly's and Delta folks alike hate his ass. And it's hard for those two to agree on anything in Arkansas. I know because I'm a hillbilly. Only the give me a hand out blacks like him and his NY wife was never liked by anybody. The crap Clinton pulled in Arkansas as Gov. and the crap he pulled in Washington has left him as a marked man in his home state. He is not even safe in Hope. He only sneaks into his library in Little Rock. And then it's only with the cover of night. And straight to his love nest atop of the Clinton Library.

Your such a Lib. Turd it's not even funny.

The owner of the Co. I work for has not been seen since the election. And only one brown noser has spoken with or communicated with him. Due back in the office this Tuesday. He fired a over educated idiot two weeks ago. Great guy, but couldn't think outside of the over educated idiot box. Do I think heads will roll come Tuesday. No,,,, we are already way understaffed and under paid except for two paper pushers. And making record profits. He could sell the Company. But only 3 employees would stay if that happened. It's nice to be of value during this time in whats left of America.

I have been privileged to see the Obummer backlash from east to west in my own family. From family that lost everything because of Sandy to family on the left coast that have finally woke up and see no future out there. To family in the Great Lakes Rust Belt. There all out and coming home to Oklahoma and Arkansas. We may not make the big bucks here. But we will survive. Family is coming home. And with there exodes, comes great talent and work ethic's.

We are also feeling the Obummer backlash here in Oklahoma and Arkansas. One of my cousins saw the Company she works for stop in it's track Friday. They went to a hiring freeze. 75% of there standing orders were cancelled in a 8 hour time frame. 50% of those orders were outside of the USA. Export orders dried up for them with the dumb-o-crat vote.

At my place of work. We had orders cancelled. And request for pricing protection on other order's not canceled. So if we honor the orders we lose money on the coming price increase's in steel, cast iron and bronze. Look for raw materials to double in price over the next 3 months. You thought food was high now. Just weight. Not even Archer Danial's or any of the other major Corp. farming Co's will be able to repair or replace combines and other implements. And we use to make the best farming equipment in the world.

Obummers election to a second term is already destroying the country. The next employment numbers will be bad. And it will only get worse. The blue states can eat **** and die!!!!!

All your going to have left is unions that cost to much, and a ton of welfare want to be's.
I'm not wasting time responding to personal attacks. Continue wondering in the wilderness and getting blindsided by reality. Continue taking conservatism and the Republican party down with you. Hard as it may be to believe, you and yours are not smarter than everyone else.
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Old 11-11-2012, 18:46   #156
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I'm not wasting time responding to personal attacks. Continue wondering in the wilderness and getting blindsided by reality. Continue taking conservatism and the Republican party down with you. Hard as it may be to believe, you and yours are not smarter than everyone else.

Perhaps but we can do basic math and respect private property. You thieves can't say the same
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Obviously neither one of you guys is a true Judeo-Christian
I'm not and I never claimed to be.

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Multiply you two by, say, two or three hundred million other, 'lost souls' and, voila, there's the blind, deaf, dumb, defunct, and utterly dependent American public of today.
I've served my country, I've earned the top degree in my field in a very challenging program, and I'm in the top ~5-ish percentile for personal income.

I'm pretty much the opposite of "dumb" and "dependent." I pull my own weight in taxes, and I'm betting you don't (if you don't pay ~$35k/year in income taxes, someone else is pulling your weight).

I'm certainly not a perfect man or a paragon of virtue or anything. I've done many massively stupid things in my life and I make mistakes every day. But to attack me as being "dumb" or "dependent" is utterly retarded. I'm smarter than you, and I depend on no one.
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Hard as it may be to believe, you and yours are not smarter than everyone else.
Like I just said to the last guy--I know I'm not smarter than everyone else, but I also know I'm smarter than you.
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Old 11-11-2012, 20:22   #159
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Like I just said to the last guy--I know I'm not smarter than everyone else, but I also know I'm smarter than you.


There is an influcks of sigline material tonight.
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There is an influcks of sigline material tonight.
Ain't it the truth!
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