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Old 11-11-2012, 21:26   #21
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Holy crap are you guys out of touch with reality.

We're screwed if we keep up the religious nonsense.

Religion has NO place in modern politics. If you think some big scary guy that lives in the sky controls your life, step way from the voting machine.
You are the one out of touch with reality. We lost because the religious right stayed home. Without it we are a minority party that will never win.
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Old 11-11-2012, 21:27   #22
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I also have to point out that the Republican party was very soundly rejected by the Latino community, a group that places high value on faith and family. Immigration may have played a larger role in their decision.
I'm pretty sure around here they vote on their welfare check and food stamps.
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Old 11-11-2012, 21:27   #23
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The media has a lot to do with what is happening in our nation today.Pretty hard running against the president and the media.
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Old 11-11-2012, 21:27   #24
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I think it's too early to make any big leaps without some serious consideration and deliberation.

While I might concur that the current evangelicals groups (of which I am a member) have too much pull, I also have to point out that the Republican party was very soundly rejected by the Latino community, a group that places high value on faith and family. Immigration may have played a larger role in their decision.

I'm not purposefully disagreeing with anyone yet, but I'm not agreeing either.

I think we need just a little time to think.
I personally think it's kinda stupid to go "Women suck, no birth control, no abortions, you do what we tell you to, whether you like it or not." "Wait, women aren't voting for us? Why not? I thought they loved us? I thought the women were going to vote for us guaranteed?"

"Oh, the minorities are thinking about voting? Well tell them they all suck, and any illegals who are here will be shipped home immediately. I don't care if that means families will be broken up and people will lose their friends. The illegals have to go." "Wait, what do you mean the minorities aren't voting for us? I thought they loved us. I was sure they were going to vote republican."

Not really much thinking is needed, Republicans need to either realize that their stupid crap needs to go, or they need to quit trying to win elections. Because that stupid crap is exactly the reason why they lost. Some republicans keep going on and on about their morals, and how if they don't keep pushing their morals then they're no better than the democrats. Well what happened to Republicans wanting small government? Because it seems that all the republicans pushing their morals are wanting to make government bigger and use the government to force their morals on other people who don't want their morals forced upon them. And then they have the gall to complain about Obamacare, and how it forces them to buy healthcare, and to pay for other people's healthcare. Well I personally would rather pay for someone else's healthcare, than to have them force their morals upon me.
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Old 11-11-2012, 21:28   #25
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You are the one out of touch with reality. We lost because the religious right stayed home. Without it we are a minority party that will never win.
Why did they stay home? A no vote is the same thing as a vote for Obama.

What were they thinking?
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Old 11-11-2012, 21:29   #26
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Abolishing Socialism should be the main goal.

The Republicans should emphasize what they are for and not what they are against.

Try to get the evangelicals and Libertarians on board. We need a big tent.

I would be a Libertarian if they were a viable party but for now I am with the strongest party against the Democrat Socialists.

Big old bad Dick Cheney to paraphrase said, “Freedom is for everyone” when they cornered him about his gay daughter figuring he would bad mouth her (he defended her as a good father).

Another Barry Goldwater would work for me.
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Romney lost because he, and a few other Republicans, which tarnished his name, pissed off women, and the minorities didn't like his stance on immigration.

I agree with you ysr, if Republicans don't drop all the women/gay/minority hating, they'll never win an election. It's really not that hard to fathom why you lost when you piss off the exact people you need to help you win.
Romney lost because he is a moderate liberal. He got fewer votes than John McCain, another moderate liberal.

Minorities are not going to vote for a liberal white man over a liberal black man or a liberal democrat, no matter who that liberal white man is. Why vote for a copy, when you can vote for the real thing?

Romney lost because conservative white males didn't have a reason to come out and vote. The republican party has been taking conservative votes for granted, and they don't understand that conservatives won't vote for the lesser evil.

Every time the republicans lose, they think the answer is to move farther left. And then they lose again.
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Why did they stay home? A no vote is the same thing as a vote for Obama.

What were they thinking?
They stayed home because they were ignored, and Romney was a Mormon.
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Old 11-11-2012, 21:31   #29
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bkenut nailed it. Republicans will never win as long as big media controls/distorts the message.
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Old 11-11-2012, 21:31   #30
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I'm pretty sure around here they vote on their welfare check and food stamps.
Well sir, take that to four years from now, and see where it gets us.

Maybe you should look a little harder. Around here they're working their silly asses off and buying real estate.
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Lets see, The RNC lost with a flip/flopper who has voted for gun control, appointed radical gay rights activists as judges and created the basis for obama-care and you think he was too conservative. As my niece would say..."What-Ever!".
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You are the one out of touch with reality. We lost because the religious right stayed home. Without it we are a minority party that will never win.
Tell us why they stayed home. It had absolutely nothing to do with politics. HH
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Why did they stay home? A no vote is the same thing as a vote for Obama.

What were they thinking?
We don't think like you do. We don't sell out. We have principles. Frankly, you'll NEVER understand how a "right wing principled conservative" thinks.
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I want someone fiscally conservative who keeps the governement out of peoples lives. I dont want someone who cries about how our moral fabric is tearing apart because gays can marry. Someone who stands up for constitutional values and leaves the church out of law.
There are such people.......... they are called ahem............ Libertarians.
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They stayed home because they were ignored, and Romney was a Mormon.
So they cut off their nose to spite their face?

Not too smart.
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So they cut off their nose to spite their face?

Not too smart.
Yeah, no doubt. Same with the Jewish vote. Not very smart!
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Tell us why they stayed home. It had absolutely nothing to do with politics. HH
Republicans here love to use the term "RINO". They criticize and slam a "RINO" like a "RINO" is the lowest form of life on the planet. Then, they go out and vote for a "RINO".

If we tried to explain principles, you wouldn't understand.
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If the religious right are stupid enough to let obama win by staying home than i say ditch the losers.
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If the religious right are stupid enough to let obama win by staying home than i say ditch the losers.
Too late. They ditched you, and you LOST. You are the LOSER.
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If the religious right are stupid enough to let obama win by staying home than i say ditch the losers.
Yeah, except without the religious right we will never win another election.

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