A question for the Republicans on board. - Page 2

Flying-Dutchman · 11-11-2012, 20:29

Abolishing Socialism should be the main goal.

The Republicans should emphasize what they are for and not what they are against.

Try to get the evangelicals and Libertarians on board. We need a big tent.

I would be a Libertarian if they were a viable party but for now I am with the strongest party against the Democrat Socialists.

Big old bad Dick Cheney to paraphrase said, “Freedom is for everyone” when they cornered him about his gay daughter figuring he would bad mouth her (he defended her as a good father).

Another Barry Goldwater would work for me.

Sporaticus · 11-11-2012, 20:29

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Originally Posted by TK-421

Romney lost because he, and a few other Republicans, which tarnished his name, pissed off women, and the minorities didn't like his stance on immigration.

I agree with you ysr, if Republicans don't drop all the women/gay/minority hating, they'll never win an election. It's really not that hard to fathom why you lost when you piss off the exact people you need to help you win.

Romney lost because he is a moderate liberal. He got fewer votes than John McCain, another moderate liberal.

Minorities are not going to vote for a liberal white man over a liberal black man or a liberal democrat, no matter who that liberal white man is. Why vote for a copy, when you can vote for the real thing?

Romney lost because conservative white males didn't have a reason to come out and vote. The republican party has been taking conservative votes for granted, and they don't understand that conservatives won't vote for the lesser evil.

Every time the republicans lose, they think the answer is to move farther left. And then they lose again.

G36's Rule · 11-11-2012, 20:30

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Originally Posted by ysr_racer

Why did they stay home? A no vote is the same thing as a vote for Obama.

What were they thinking?

They stayed home because they were ignored, and Romney was a Mormon.

Fracball · 11-11-2012, 20:31

bkenut nailed it. Republicans will never win as long as big media controls/distorts the message.

jame · 11-11-2012, 20:31

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I'm pretty sure around here they vote on their welfare check and food stamps.

Well sir, take that to four years from now, and see where it gets us.

Maybe you should look a little harder. Around here they're working their silly asses off and buying real estate.

Trapped_in_Kali · 11-11-2012, 20:31

Lets see, The RNC lost with a flip/flopper who has voted for gun control, appointed radical gay rights activists as judges and created the basis for obama-care and you think he was too conservative. As my niece would say..."What-Ever!".

HollowHead · 11-11-2012, 20:32

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Originally Posted by G36's Rule

You are the one out of touch with reality. We lost because the religious right stayed home. Without it we are a minority party that will never win.

Tell us why they stayed home. It had absolutely nothing to do with politics. HH

Sporaticus · 11-11-2012, 20:32

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Originally Posted by ysr_racer

Why did they stay home? A no vote is the same thing as a vote for Obama.

What were they thinking?

We don't think like you do. We don't sell out. We have principles. Frankly, you'll NEVER understand how a "right wing principled conservative" thinks.

stevelyn · 11-11-2012, 20:33

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Originally Posted by Diesel McBadass

I want someone fiscally conservative who keeps the governement out of peoples lives. I dont want someone who cries about how our moral fabric is tearing apart because gays can marry. Someone who stands up for constitutional values and leaves the church out of law.

There are such people.......... they are called ahem............ Libertarians.

ysr_racer · 11-11-2012, 20:33

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Originally Posted by G36's Rule

They stayed home because they were ignored, and Romney was a Mormon.

So they cut off their nose to spite their face?

Not too smart.

G36's Rule · 11-11-2012, 20:34

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So they cut off their nose to spite their face?

Not too smart.

Yeah, no doubt. Same with the Jewish vote. Not very smart!

Sporaticus · 11-11-2012, 20:35

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Originally Posted by HollowHead

Tell us why they stayed home. It had absolutely nothing to do with politics. HH

Republicans here love to use the term "RINO". They criticize and slam a "RINO" like a "RINO" is the lowest form of life on the planet. Then, they go out and vote for a "RINO".

If we tried to explain principles, you wouldn't understand.

**Diesel McBadass** · 11-11-2012, 20:35

If the religious right are stupid enough to let obama win by staying home than i say ditch the losers.

Sporaticus · 11-11-2012, 20:36

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Originally Posted by Diesel McBadass

If the religious right are stupid enough to let obama win by staying home than i say ditch the losers.

Too late. They ditched you, and you LOST. You are the LOSER.

G36's Rule · 11-11-2012, 20:36

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Originally Posted by Diesel McBadass

If the religious right are stupid enough to let obama win by staying home than i say ditch the losers.

Yeah, except without the religious right we will never win another election.

jame · 11-11-2012, 20:37

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Originally Posted by Diesel McBadass

If the religious right are stupid enough to let obama win by staying home than i say ditch the losers.

If they did indeed stay home, you've already ditched them.

Congratulations.

Sporaticus · 11-11-2012, 20:38

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Originally Posted by G36's Rule

and Romney was a Mormon.

I wonder about that. I never held Romney's religion against him, his liberalism was enough, but I cannot help but wonder how it played to a group who didn't show up on election day.

Magnus2131 · 11-11-2012, 20:42

Yeah this is exactly what the left wants. Devision.

SMOKEin · 11-11-2012, 20:43

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Originally Posted by ysr_racer

I maintain that until the Republicans ditch the Christian Conservative nonsense, we'll never win another election.

When I'm talking to my fellow Republicans, none of them ever mentions abortion, birth control, gay marriage, or marijuana.

The times have changed, if we don't, we'll end up like the dinosaurs. They were unwilling to change too.

What say you?

Agreed.

TK-421 · 11-11-2012, 20:43

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Originally Posted by G36's Rule

Yeah, except without the religious right we will never win another election.

Not like you could win with them either.

G36's Rule · 11-11-2012, 20:46

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Originally Posted by TK-421

Not like you could win with them either.

Yeah, those losses in 2000 and 2004 really hurt...

Rooster Rugburn · 11-11-2012, 20:48

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Originally Posted by ysr_racer

I maintain that until the Republicans ditch the Christian Conservative nonsense, we'll never win another election.

When I'm talking to my fellow Republicans, none of them ever mentions abortion, birth control, gay marriage, or marijuana.

The times have changed, if we don't, we'll end up like the dinosaurs. They were unwilling to change too.

What say you?

Actually, I think the republicans already did ditch the religious right wing. John McCain rejected the endorsement of John Hagee in 2008 and sought the votes of moderate liberals, and Mitt Romney, a known liberal, didn't exactly reach out to the religious right wing.

So, how did that work out for the republicans? Oh, wait, they lost both times.

Yeah, that's it, ditch the religious right wing. Keep up the losing streak.

IceAxe · 11-11-2012, 20:50

I have to laugh at these sort of discussions; the fact is that the republican party needs the Christians a lot more than the Christians need the republican party.

G36's Rule · 11-11-2012, 20:51

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Originally Posted by TK-421

Not like you could win with them either.

The really funny thing is that idiots like you want to throw away millions of votes for Repubs. To gain thousands of votes by liberals/progressives/Jewish/libertarians...

Rooster Rugburn · 11-11-2012, 20:53

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Originally Posted by IceAxe

I have to laugh at these sort of discussions; the fact is that the republican party needs the Christians a lot more than the Christians need the republican party.

Apparently so. Whenever the republican party goes it alone, they lose.

I wonder who these folks think is behind the TEA Party?