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Old 11-18-2012, 17:30   #41
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Old 11-19-2012, 02:03   #42
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I don't think you have any clue what are talking about. Hint: YOu REALLY need to watch the video that was posted in the first post.
I did, which is why I know that, at around 50 seconds into the video, the Colt rep explains the differences between the MARSOC guns and the civilian guns. Hint: one involved hand-fitting, one doesn't.

Would you like to go back and watch it again, maybe?
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Old 11-19-2012, 06:09   #43
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Yep,......
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Old 11-19-2012, 06:50   #44
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I agree. All this fuss over a painted rail gun from Colt, that happens to be way over priced.
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Not a $2000 pistol IMO.
Well, it does come with a Pelican case AND an Otis cleaning kit.
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Old 11-19-2012, 11:02   #46
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Old 11-19-2012, 14:27   #47
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I agree. All this fuss over a painted rail gun from Colt, that happens to be way over priced.
Again, what would you know without even picking one up?
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Old 11-19-2012, 14:57   #48
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Well, it does come with a Pelican case AND an Otis cleaning kit.
And the bragging rights of being a USMC selected pistol. And a G10 grip or something like that.
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No, that gun will probably go for a few hundred more than a similar condition Colt, and with a lot more features.
Gun sold for $1300. I've found used Colts for as little as $500.

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I want you to go to the trouble of shopping around and find a deal like I did, as most people do when buying a gun. Who buys a gun for the first price they see?
They are selling at the prices I listed, whether you like it or not. Buying used is a whole different story and to follow that red herring is moot.

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Again, mine was new for $1,350 delivered, and a guy on the DW forum said he got one for $1,300 delivered. Mine is SS, which is less than the black DWs, but only a few hundred more than a SS Colt.
As I figured, you couldn't provide any proof other than "on this other site this guy says." I dunno which exact colt you are trying to compare to, but they go for ~850-900 new around here. Rail guns are just a bit more.
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I did, which is why I know that, at around 50 seconds into the video, the Colt rep explains the differences between the MARSOC guns and the civilian guns. Hint: one involved hand-fitting, one doesn't.
I get that. Please expound on your theory of significance.
Hint: Hand fitting costs money and generally amounts to higher quality. So the consumer models will supposedly have a higher amount of fit and finish.

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Is the finish CeraKote?
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Old 11-19-2012, 16:35   #52
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I have posted this in other forums and the "differences" between the true issue gun and the civilian version may relate to the fact the contract (just like FN's M16 contract) specified Colt could not sell the same gun on the commercial market. This may be Colts way of:
1) cashing in on the hype associated with USMC issed gear
2) getting around the no civilian sales prohibition.
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Is the finish CeraKote?
I believe so. Cerakote over stainless steel.
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I have posted this in other forums and the "differences" between the true issue gun and the civilian version may relate to the fact the contract (just like FN's M16 contract) specified Colt could not sell the same gun on the commercial market. This may be Colts way of:
1) cashing in on the hype associated with USMC issed gear
2) getting around the no civilian sales prohibition.
Of course Colt is cashing in on the USMC SOC hype. Not unlike HK and their SOCOM pistol or Beretta and the M9 or Springfield Armory on their FBI contract, etc.

And you're right on Point 2 as well. Change just enough so that it isn't 100% GI then sell it.
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The lanyard loop is da shiznit. Now that's a proper combat handgun.
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Old 11-20-2012, 02:04   #56
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Look, concerning price versus value.

To the "arm chair warrior", he will pay whatever it cost, simply to point to his treasured pistol and tell his friend that that's the same pistol that the Marines carry.

That means it kills your enemies "deader".

Consider, the 1873 Colt Single Action Army has been obsolete for nearly a century....Yet...the Colt Custom shop still cranks them out for over $1500.00 a pop.

AND....insult to injury, they are not even authentic to the originals. Yet... people continue to buy them.

As to the lack of quality control....It does not matter!

Most will never even be fired.

Returning to my Peace Maker example, until the growth of "Cowboy action shooting" most of the modern 1873's were never fired or even cocked.

Look no further than a Gun Show in your area.

With little trouble you will almost certainly find a N.I.B. third generation pistol still with it's tags and zip tie on the hammer.

Now try to find one that is used, but good condition...

I'll bet you can't find one.

Funny story about "Cowboy" shooters...many of those guy's bought the Colts form collectors who owned them for years, only to find out that they were defective and needed to be returned to Colt to have them corrected.

Timing issues, aiming issues, ever firing issues.

Colt made a "bundle" cranking those puppies out...Knowing that they would likely never be fired.

In closing...Colt Firearms Mfg. Co. is NOT your friend.

They are nearly Bankrupt for a reason.
And your SASS number and Alias is?
I have several 3rd generation Colts. No problems with any of mine.
Having been involved in SASS since 2000 I have not heard of any of the things you speak of.

The only complaint I have ever heard is, is that they are not as tough as a Ruger. Well NS different internal design.

As far as Colt not being your friend. Really? I had a Colt Blue box, I was damaged by one of my pups. Chewed on. So I called Colt. They sent me a new box I paid shipping.

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Old 11-20-2012, 02:38   #57
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I get that. Please expound on your theory of significance.
Hint: Hand fitting costs money and generally amounts to higher quality. So the consumer models will supposedly have a higher amount of fit and finish.
My "theory of significance" is that they are not going to be identical to the guns given to the MARSOC guys, an assertion you seemed to blow a gasket over despite now agreeing with.
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I believe so. Cerakote over stainless steel.
Thanks,.......I actually learned something fron this thread.
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Old 11-20-2012, 06:11   #59
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Well, it does come with a Pelican case AND an Otis cleaning kit.
Oh. Well in that case, I change my mind.

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Old 11-20-2012, 06:16   #60
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Again, what would you know without even picking one up?
I know from looking at it and looking at the specs, that I would not pay 2K for one. Period. If you want one, knock yourself out. I know as much about it as you do. Have you picked one up and can speak from firsthand knowledge about how great they are and can justify the price?

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