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Old 11-27-2012, 15:51   #121
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Old 11-27-2012, 16:24   #122
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To the op, it's so nuts that you would make this thread. Whenever I hear the misquote "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." I always think to myself that dog should be there instead of beer. There are things that are put in front of us to teach certain things. I think dogs are there to teach us about love, joy, and forgiveness.

Just the other day I risked getting my arm bitten off because of my dog. Did I know it was perhaps unwise, yes. Would I do it again, anytime.
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Old 11-27-2012, 16:32   #123
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So what makes all human life so valuable? Who said? A cooky religion?
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Old 11-27-2012, 17:03   #124
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Some people have a connection with their dogs, some people shove them out back, treat them as property and complain that they are nothing but problems. I am a dog person, my pooches have all known that, we are family. I can't say that I would sacrifice a family member's safety but if my dog is in trouble, I am there for him, just as he would be for me. Doesn't mean anything other than that, when there's a bond, others sometimes have a tough time relating to the strength of it. My dog would never leave my side, and I will not leave his, should he need me.
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Old 11-27-2012, 17:39   #125
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So what makes all human life so valuable? Who said? A cooky religion?
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Old 11-27-2012, 18:17   #126
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That about sums it up for me, too. I've had many dogs over the years and I loved them all. Your dog is the only animal in the world that would rather be with you than with other dogs. Dog spelled backwards is... and all that. Heck, I even carry "doggy treats" in my glove box... for dogs I've never met.

But, no, they are not humans. I think human life has a much greater value.
Finally someone with common sense. You guys have been watching too many Disney movies that make animals have human like emotions and mannerisms. I get a kick out of people that have said their dog or cat loves them. Fools!

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Old 11-27-2012, 18:35   #127
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You make a fallacious assumption. I'm guessing that fnfalman would agree wtih the idea that not all animal life (and not all human life) has the same value.

I wouldn't eat my pets. I wouldn't kill my family. But I would eat some animals and I would kill some people.

Why whenever I log on to this, I see the same folks, generally the ones that are religious make illogical arguments, then I see DD and Falman come on and correct them?

Man, and I thought maybe times have changed for the couple weeks I haven't logged into glocktalk!
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Old 11-27-2012, 19:39   #128
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The family didn't die trying to save the dog.

The 16 year old boy tried to save the dog, then returned to shore. Good judgment.

The family tried to save each other, the dog was not an issue. Their efforts were valiant, but futile.
The family created the scenario of their own demise. Had they not taught junior that "doggie is people" he would have waved goodbye to doggie like a country boy and everyone would still be alive-even the dog.
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Old 11-27-2012, 19:43   #129
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The family created the scenario of their own demise. Had they not taught junior that "doggie is people" he would have waved goodbye to doggie like a country boy and everyone would still be alive-even the dog.


How do you have any idea what they taught their son? You sure are a presumptuous cuss, I'll give you that.
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Old 11-27-2012, 19:43   #130
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That..... is stupid.

You judge his ethics and priorities based on a flip comment on the web. Accuse him of being vegan because he'd risk himself to save his pet?

I got news for you, I'd risk my life to save my little buddies. Hell, I'd risk YOUR life to save them.
That is is dispicable.

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I love my dogs, they make me feel better after a bad day when they both jump in my lap and burrow their heads into my neck and wiggle with pleasure as I scratch them. You're just another judgmental A-hole in a hat.
I like dogs, I have always owned dogs. But, I am not some yuppie city slicker who can't tell the difference between canine and human. animal and human.

Unlike you, I would gladly let my dog die, if it was a choice between saving a human life, or her life. It isn't that hard.

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I know far too many people I wouldn't piddle on if they was on fire, I never met a dog that made me feel that way.

Now you have someone to judge.
Oh, there are a lot of people I dislike in this life. Some of them are still alive because it is illegal and immoral to kill them. However, they still have more value than a dog.
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Old 11-27-2012, 19:45   #131
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That is is dispicable.
Actually, what he said has more virtue than any of the dribble you've offered up, including your original post.
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Old 11-27-2012, 19:55   #132
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That is is dispicable.
Irrisputably.
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Old 11-27-2012, 19:58   #133
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The family created the scenario of their own demise. Had they not taught junior that "doggie is people" he would have waved goodbye to doggie like a country boy and everyone would still be alive-even the dog.
That really ranks up there as asnine statements go,

Did you know the family? did witnesses report the kid yelling "He's human" before he waded into the water?

Suppose a 12 year-old kid waded out to get his sand bucket that got swept out? Would you be saying

"Had they not taught junior that "sand buckets" is people...."?

I have seen kids do the darndest thing without a dog around to blame.
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Old 11-27-2012, 20:04   #134
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I don't believe my dogs are people...I would jump in the water to save my dogs, unlike most people.
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Old 11-27-2012, 20:09   #135
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I don't believe my dogs are people...I would jump in the water to save my dogs, unlike most people.
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Old 11-27-2012, 20:09   #136
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That is is dispicable.
Actually, it's rather spot on. HH
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Old 11-27-2012, 20:45   #137
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That may be your personal belief, but it isn't mine.

I'd risk my life to save my pets. I don't necessarily feel the same about other humans or even some of my own family members.
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Old 11-27-2012, 20:49   #138
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Irrisputably.

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Old 11-27-2012, 21:19   #139
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Old 11-28-2012, 06:11   #140
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..... Oh, there are a lot of people I dislike in this life. Some of them are still alive because it is illegal and immoral to kill them. However, they still have more value than a dog.
This is your opinion. There is nothing wrong with your opinion.

Others have the opinion that there are a lot of people that have less value than a dog. You seem to want them to change their opinion, though I maybe misinterpreting that.

I don't think dogs (or cats) are people, but I'd sure as shootin risk my life to save many dogs and cats before I'd lift a finger to save many people.

Irrisputably discusting FTW!
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