Survey: Iron sights - Page 14

ak103k · 11-24-2012, 13:03

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I've personally had problems with too much lube.

Really?!?! I hear tell its all just made up internet lore!

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Originally Posted by TangoFoxtrot

I agree! In Iraq I used graphite powder on my BCG so the sand didn't stick to wet oil...but it made a mess at times.

This was all the rage in the early to mid 70's, and always seemed to work fine for me. This was my last "issue" can from around 1974. Still has a bit in it too.

Its a bit messy as a liquid, but once it dries, it doesnt attract anything, and its a decent lube/protectant. Way better than powdered graphite.

I thought it was all but gone until a couple of years back, when I came across it again on the internet. These days, you can find it here....

http://www.drislide.com/

Seems to be the same stuff. If you dont want to run them "wet", this is a good choice.

**Jason D** · 11-24-2012, 16:41

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Originally Posted by ak103k

Really?!?! I hear tell its all just made up internet lore!

This was all the rage in the early to mid 70's, and always seemed to work fine for me. This was my last "issue" can from around 1974. Still has a bit in it too.

Its a bit messy as a liquid, but once it dries, it doesnt attract anything, and its a decent lube/protectant. Way better than powdered graphite.

I thought it was all but gone until a couple of years back, when I came across it again on the internet. These days, you can find it here....

http://www.drislide.com/

Seems to be the same stuff. If you dont want to run them "wet", this is a good choice.

I have used that for years, but would have never though to use it on a gun. It works well for keeping the working parts of my Tractor's snow blade working. Throttle cable too.

TangoFoxtrot · 11-25-2012, 05:25

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Originally Posted by ak103k

Really?!?! I hear tell its all just made up internet lore!

This was all the rage in the early to mid 70's, and always seemed to work fine for me. This was my last "issue" can from around 1974. Still has a bit in it too.

Its a bit messy as a liquid, but once it dries, it doesnt attract anything, and its a decent lube/protectant. Way better than powdered graphite.

I thought it was all but gone until a couple of years back, when I came across it again on the internet. These days, you can find it here....

http://www.drislide.com/

Seems to be the same stuff. If you dont want to run them "wet", this is a good choice.

Thanks for the info. My days of playing in the sand are over so now I use wet lubes.

TangoFoxtrot · 11-27-2012, 05:07

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Originally Posted by Jason D

For now, yes. Since I am only 34.
I played with reddots on pistols a bit but never took to them.

I like them best for low light.

TangoFoxtrot · 11-29-2012, 04:34

Think I'm going with a Troy rear sight.

**QNman** · 11-29-2012, 07:12

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Originally Posted by TangoFoxtrot

Think I'm going with a Troy rear sight.

Troy is pricey, but excellent. Good choice.

Brian Brazier · 11-29-2012, 10:55

I have run almost every rear sight on the market at one time or another, I still have a Troy and DD A1.5 because they are my favorites. The KAC micro is nice, I like that they dont lock in the up position like the Troys, but they only have one aperture and I m not real big on elevation adjusments on my rear sight (unless its a carry handle). The Magpuls are the best value and take the most abuse, but I dont care for the aperture, I wish they were more like the Troy or A2 style. The LMT is great, nbut a little bulky compared to the A1.5, and expensive.

scccdoc · 11-29-2012, 12:03

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Originally Posted by Brian Brazier

I have run almost every rear sight on the market at one time or another, I still have a Troy and DD A1.5 because they are my favorites. The KAC micro is nice, I like that they dont lock in the up position like the Troys, but they only have one aperture and I m not real big on elevation adjusments on my rear sight (unless its a carry handle). The Magpuls are the best value and take the most abuse, but I dont care for the aperture, I wish they were more like the Troy or A2 style. The LMT is great, nbut a little bulky compared to the A1.5, and expensive.

I don't want to see a rear aperture (want a flip up version) on my M4 with an Aimpoit PRO, which one would you suggest , Thanks,DOC

WoodenPlank · 11-29-2012, 12:15

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Originally Posted by scccdoc

I don't want to see a rear aperture (want a flip up version) on my M4 with an Aimpoit PRO, which one would you suggest , Thanks,DOC

Personally, I am a fan of Troys.

Brian Brazier · 11-29-2012, 13:24

I would go with the Troy as well, overall I like them the best for flip ups, if Magpul used an A2 aperture they would get my vote, but I dont care for the one they use. The Aimpoint PRO has a riser that makes it a lower 1/3 cowitness so you wont be looking through the sight at the dot, so you could run a DD or any other fixed rear, without looking through the rear sight.

K. Foster · 11-29-2012, 14:04

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Originally Posted by scccdoc

I don't want to see a rear aperture (want a flip up version) on my M4 with an Aimpoit PRO, which one would you suggest , Thanks,DOC

Troy if you want top shelf. However, if you are just going to use them in a back-up role, MBUIS’s are serviceable.

scccdoc · 11-29-2012, 14:34

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Originally Posted by WoodenPlank

Personally, I am a fan of Troys.

To all three of you guys, just ordered the "folding Di-Optic aperture" in the diamond shape. I will shoot iron as often as red dot. Thanks guys............ DOC

ak103k · 11-29-2012, 14:39

I dont know that Id call Troy top shelf. I have a set that came on my M&P15, and they are not near as well made as the set of GG&G BUIS I have on my one Armalite.

The Troys I have, have a lot of play in them when they are deployed, and dont seem to be as precise as the GG&G's.

scccdoc · 11-29-2012, 14:46

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Originally Posted by ak103k

I dont know that Id call Troy top shelf. I have a set that came on my M&P15, and they are not near as well made as the set of GG&G BUIS I have on my one Armalite.

The Troys I have, have a lot of play in them when they are deployed, and dont seem to be as precise as the GG&G's.

Too late, ordered! Really like the idea of the diamond................ DOC

Brian Brazier · 11-29-2012, 18:46

I have never tired the GG&G but all my Troys have been solid with no play, I would contact Troy, they have great CS.

Warp · 11-29-2012, 19:03

I hear nothing but good things about the Troy site.

I have a Troy rear folding battesight coming tomorrow. $80 on primary arms over the weekend. (plus $10 to ship)

ak103k · 11-29-2012, 19:22

I suppose I could have got a bad set of Troys. The set I have are the only set Ive used, and they came with the gun. Maybe they are a cheaper version on the S&W guns? I dont know.

The GG&G's are what I have to compare them too, and Troys just dont seem (to me anyways) as well made.

D4RWlN · 11-30-2012, 14:53

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Originally Posted by Warp

I hear nothing but good things about the Troy site.

I have a Troy rear folding battesight coming tomorrow. $80 on primary arms over the weekend. (plus $10 to ship)

I believe Stickman has posted have some fall apart on him. All the Troys I've had have been fine. I hated the di-optic troys though. I prefer KAC micros. The LWRC skirmish sights look very nice as well. I'm looking forward to trying a set off.

TangoFoxtrot · 12-01-2012, 04:32

Do the Troy folding rear sights lock in after the are up?, or do the push down like the Magpul BUIS do?

ak103k · 12-01-2012, 06:41

They lock in "sort of". They dont lock up tight, and have a good bit of play, mostly fore and aft, when you wiggle them, or at least mine do.

CW Mock · 12-01-2012, 13:20

I shoot irons a lot on my Colt 6720. I dumped the Matech for a Troy rear folder.

It's a patrol rifle, and has an Aimpoint T1 micro, but I have more fun shooting iron sights. The Troys have been fine for the shooting I do (0-300 yards).

I have done the majority of my training with the iron sights only and would not feel under equipped if all I had were iron sights. The Aimpoint is just easier to use in bad light, bad positions or a hurry. Being a working gun, I use whatever edge I can get. On weekends when I'm out plinking away, I take off the optic and use the irons to stay sharp.

Somebody mentioned that a component of being a good shot is not just being able to dial in a sight at a known range, use a rest and fire at high contrast targets and I agree wholeheartedly. I grew up rural and went on a lot of walks with a rifle plinking. One would quickly get pretty dang good at range estimation, fundamentals and "Kentucky windage" to make hits. Now that I'm the instructor at work I make our people shoot at nonstandard targets at varied ranges. If you don't do that - try it. It's fun, and if you use your rifle for personal protection it might be useful.

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phil evans · 12-01-2012, 17:32

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Originally Posted by CW Mock

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I have done the majority of my training with the iron sights only and would not feel under equipped if all I had were iron sights.
I grew up rural and went on a lot of walks with a rifle plinking. One would quickly get pretty dang good at range estimation, fundamentals and "Kentucky windage" to make hits. Now that I'm the instructor at work I make our people shoot at nonstandard targets at varied ranges. If you don't do that - try it. It's fun, and if you use your rifle for personal protection it might be useful.

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thanks for the knowledge.

fnfalman · 12-02-2012, 02:20

The Larue Tactical solid block of a rear sight intrigues me. Reminds me a bit of the old M16/M16A1 rear sight.

Brian Brazier · 12-02-2012, 02:29

If you like the Larue checkout the Daniel Defense A1.5, it not a qd, but iron sights dont need to be, and it has the old A1 wheel with the A2 aperture, perfect combo, they are my go to fixed sight.

TangoFoxtrot · 12-02-2012, 06:25

[QUOTE=CW Mock;19688969]I shoot irons a lot on my Colt 6720. I dumped the Matech for a Troy rear folder.

It's a patrol rifle, and has an Aimpoint T1 micro, but I have more fun shooting iron sights. The Troys have been fine for the shooting I do (0-300 yards).

I have done the majority of my training with the iron sights only and would not feel under equipped if all I had were iron sights. The Aimpoint is just easier to use in bad light, bad positions or a hurry. Being a working gun, I use whatever edge I can get. On weekends when I'm out plinking away, I take off the optic and use the irons to stay sharp.

Somebody mentioned that a component of being a good shot is not just being able to dial in a sight at a known range, use a rest and fire at high contrast targets and I agree wholeheartedly. I grew up rural and went on a lot of walks with a rifle plinking. One would quickly get pretty dang good at range estimation, fundamentals and "Kentucky windage" to make hits. Now that I'm the instructor at work I make our people shoot at nonstandard targets at varied ranges. If you don't do that - try it. It's fun, and if you use your rifle for personal protection it might be useful.

I agree totally!