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Old 12-05-2012, 07:32   #21
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Did ya miss the OP's post?

Light weight & 7.62 USUALLY do not mix. Notice I said usually.
The Larue is an outstanding platform, the only one I could recommend to the OP
I guess I neglected to read the 5th paragraph. I have a pretty short attention span for reading. My comment was more toward BB when he said a light weight 7.62 didn't exist.

PredadAR- 7.75lb
Leupold ultralight 3-9x33 - 0.61lb
DNZ 1piece picatinny mount - 0.5lb
PMAG loaded with 150gr hunting ammo- 1.5lb

That puts you just over 10lb for a loaded and scoped semi auto .308 with a little more scope than the OP wanted.


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Old 12-05-2012, 07:34   #22
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Old 12-05-2012, 07:44   #23
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5.56 NATO is around 60,000 psi and SAAMI .223rem is 55,000psi.
Pressure is important but so is rearward bolt thrust. You need more diameter (larger case head)/larger bolt lugs and bolt mass to control all that. Bigger round = bigger action because the build materials are the same. Compare the Thompson Contender and Encore frames for example. One can handle .308 and the other can not.

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Old 12-05-2012, 07:49   #24
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Pressure is important but so is rearward bolt thrust. You need more diameter (larger case head)/larger bolt lugs and bolt mass to control all that. Bigger round = bigger action because the build materials are the same. Compare the Thompson Contender and Encore frames for example. One can handle .308 and the other can not.
I understand that, go look at the post i quoted. My post was more or less saying that the pressure had nothing to do with the size of the rifle, and that 60,000psi is not a super high pressure as far as center fire rifles are concerned.


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Old 12-05-2012, 07:55   #25
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I guess I neglected to read the 5th paragraph. I have a pretty short attention span for reading. My comment was more toward BB when he said a light weight 7.62 didn't exist.

PredadAR- 7.75lb
Leupold ultralight 3-9x33 - 0.61lb
DNZ 1piece picatinny mount - 0.5lb
PMAG loaded with 150gr hunting ammo- 1.5lb

That puts you just over 10lb for a loaded and scoped semi auto .308.


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That's very doable! GIs carried 10 pound Garands all over the planet in WWII.
My preferred long range bolt gun is just under 11 pounds.
My M1A is right at 13

A darn good padded sling will make a 10 pound rifle feel like 7
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Old 12-05-2012, 08:40   #26
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That's very doable! GIs carried 10 pound Garands all over the planet in WWII.
My preferred long range bolt gun is just under 11 pounds.
My M1A is right at 13

A darn good padded sling will make a 10 pound rifle feel like 7
yep

Not to mention the PredatAR is plenty capable of shooting MOA or better.
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Old 12-05-2012, 08:57   #27
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yep

Not to mention the PredatAR is plenty capable of shooting MOA or better.

Yes it is,......an old buddy of mine, a Marine trained shooter,
has one with super sweet S&B glass. It shoots like a "frickin laser"
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Old 12-05-2012, 11:02   #28
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I know the OP is deadnut set on a 308 but for the ranges he is going to be shooting mostly the .300 Blk fits perfectly! But hey if he want to go spend that kind of cash and lug a 10lb rifle around go ahead! Ammo is about the same price range for both if you don't reload.
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Old 12-05-2012, 11:05   #29
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I know the OP is deadnut set on a 308 but for the ranges he is going to be shooting mostly the .300 Blk fits perfectly! But hey if he want to go spend that kind of cash and lug a 10lb rifle around go ahead! Ammo is about the same price range for both if you don't reload.
.308 is a lot easier to find right now. 300AAC hasn't been out long enough to hit the Walmarts or small town feed stores. Any able bodied person should have no problems carrying a 10lb rifle. On top of that you save less than a pound by switching from the predatAR .308 to a 16" DD .300blackout (7lb 12oz. vs 7lb 1oz.) Both will be around 10lbs loaded and scoped.

I kill hogs regularly with a 5.56 shooting 55gr ballistic tips, 64gr soft points, and 77gr OTM bullets. 5,56 would be plenty for hogs at semi close range. but the OP asked for a .308.

There is the RRA LAR-47 that is an AR that takes ak mags and shoots 7.62x39.
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M1A to the rescue..........

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That is one BADASS M1A! Does that stock take care of the bedding issues? I have an M1A Supermatch but I don't shoot it much due to the required rebedding.
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If you can swing the dough ($2,800) and the wait (a year) Larue's the way to go. But again: Add 2 lbs for the magazine and 2 lbs for the optics/mount and you are back up to 12 lbs with even with a Larue.

Brother...that ain't a lightweight rifle. Hell, My .416 Rigby with glass beats it by almost 3 lbs and I think that rifle is a chunk!
I read the posts a SCAR is what you want. Not an AR but it does everything you need and it battle proven.

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Any able bodied person should have no problems carrying a 10lb rifle. On top of that you save less than a pound by switching from the predatAR .308 to a 16" DD .300blackout (7lb 12oz. vs 7lb 1oz.) Both will be around 10lbs loaded and scoped.
Exactly.

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M1A to the rescue..........

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Bad***** M1. But that op did say light

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I read the posts a SCAR is what you want. Not an AR but it does everything you need and it battle proven.

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Good luck at finding a SCAR-17 for $2500 or less.
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With your criteria go with the Larue. Maybe you can find one on Gunbroker and not have to wait so long.
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Old 12-05-2012, 15:12   #38
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If only they weren't so damn expensive!



And another vote for the Larue. I fondle one everytime I go to my LGS and they are beautiful.
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Good luck at finding a SCAR-17 for $2500 or less.
That is right at what you can get them for new..if you have a connection...


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If only they weren't so damn expensive!

Cheaper than a SCAR!
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