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12-05-2012, 01:38
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I did have a classmate once ask a priest if Adam and Eve had belly buttons... pure genius
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12-05-2012, 02:03
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Originally Posted by Gills63
That's a mouthful man. Most of those specifics aren't explained. Don't forget God was after the people not the animals. Don't try to figure out the logistics, that's where all mighty faith takes over. It does seem that the old testament is not taken as literally as the New. And what contradictions? LOL
You got me on the incest part....I never asked anybody that one. I believe Noah took is sons and their wives.
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You see, the logistics are what makes religion and the bible fall apart. They just can't explain specific details, and want people to go on blind faith. I'm way too anally retentive about the specific details to go on blind faith.
From a biological standpoint, not allowing incest makes sense, because the species needs as much diversity as possible to prosper. But the bible seems to have a fair amount of incestous sex. My guess is they say "Oh, well it was okay back then because there were so few people back then, they didn't have a choice. But now we have more people, so it's not necessary, so now it's bad."
And the other part that makes me laugh is how christianity seems to be based upon the white male. Ever see a picture of Jesus? That's probably the first miracle, he's an arabian jew, but he looks like what Hitler defined as the perfect Aryan. Blonde hair, blue eyes, broad shoulders, tall. No "jewish" features to speak of. See Michelangelo's picture of God? White male. All of his disciples? White males.
Where did his disciples come from? Did they all come from the same area? Was that area really populated only by white people? Because from what I keep hearing, he came from Bethlehem, but Bethlehem is in the middle east. Don't you think he'd then appear to be Middle Eastern, instead of white?
Like I mentioned, I'm not all knowing about the bible, so I can't tell you specific bible verses unless I research them, and at 3am, I'm not really in the mood to research exact verses. But I seem to remember a fair bit of "God loves everybody" and then "God loves all of his believers and hates everybody else" and then "God loves everybody, including the people who don't like them, so long as they accept him and become believers" and other various small things. I'd most likely be accused of nit picking and being too literal, but that's what I do.
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12-05-2012, 02:04
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#53
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Originally Posted by Gills63
I did have a classmate once ask a priest if Adam and Eve had belly buttons... pure genius
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From what I gather online, it seems to be split about 50/50, or pretty close to that, some claiming they didn't have belly buttons because they were made and not born, and others claiming they were made with belly buttons to look like everybody else.
I think I remember reading somewhere that there was a bible verse where one of their kids asked why they didn't have belly buttons, but I could be totally wrong about that. It's 3am, my brain isn't fully functioning.
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12-05-2012, 07:09
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John, Viera, Fl
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Posted bt juggy4711:
He'd [JB] never admit it, and he'll fight it every step of the way... but I think we have a future free thinker on our hands... either that or a car bomber.
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That's the funniest thing I've read in a while!! Especially since it just might be true!
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12-05-2012, 07:27
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Originally Posted by TK-421
So why do churches have idols if they're against the second commandment?
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Originally Posted by Sarge1400
Any chance you're going to answer this question, JB?
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Idols in churches, especially the Catholic church, are a big problem within Christianity today. The Bible is explicitly clear on idols.
If you remember, all the sex abuse of alter boys was in the Catholic church too. People should be in jail, including their Pope, for covering up those crimes against children.
I have no tolerance for Catholics. Idol worshiping, child abusing, mackerel snapping heathens posing as Christians.
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12-05-2012, 07:55
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NRA Life Member
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Originally Posted by JBnTX
I suspect a large number of self-proclaimed atheists on this forum are actually victims of Christianophobia, or a fear of Christianity.
Why are you so afraid of something that you don't even believe in? Don't deny it, for many of you reek with a fear, not only of Christians, but of God himself.
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Which was to take the old reliable strategy of controlling the debate by choosing the terms - as in calling those who don't like homosexuals "homophobic" in order to ridicule them - and trying to turn it on atheists.
Not very well done, however.
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12-05-2012, 07:57
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Misanthropist
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Originally Posted by Bren
Which was to take the old reliable strategy of controlling the debate by choosing the terms - as in calling those who don't like homosexuals "homophobic" in order to ridicule them - and trying to turn it on atheists.
Not very well done, however.
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If you think you see what I did there, look closer.
There's more, I'm just getting started.
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12-05-2012, 08:14
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Originally Posted by JBnTX
Is there not at least one other Christian on this forum?
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In another thread you had Catholics grouped together with Christians as the majority religion. So yes, one other Christian has posted in this thread. Does not agree with your stretch, but has posted.
(edit) Sorry it is two. That Small cult guy as well.
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Reason: Two....it is two
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12-05-2012, 08:51
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Na Ben Don Chat
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Originally Posted by JBnTX
I suspect a large number of self-proclaimed atheists on this forum are actually victims of Christianophobia, or a fear of Christianity.
Why are you so afraid of something that you don't even believe in? Don't deny it, for many of you reek with a fear, not only of Christians, but of God himself.
You may have read the Bible, but you don't understand the Bible.
You present the fewer mistakes of Christianity as the norm, and ignore the larger good that Christianity has done. You ask for proof and evidence, knowing that you'll never accept it. You have no concept of Faith.
One might think you're possessed, but Christians know that not even the devil himself would venture near you. Even the devil is smart enough to believe in God.
So why do you fear Christianity?
Christianophobia
http://www.allaboutcounseling.com/li...istianophobia/
Christianophobia deals with the extreme fear of Christians or the Christian faith.
There are several ways to spot someone who may be Christianophobic:
Conflicting religious views that lead to an intolerance of other religions outside of their own.
An irrational fear that Christians are conforming together to take over the majority of the world.
A fear that if Christians are not “stopped” they will do the same to their own religion.
Avoidance of Christians.
Radically violent or complete intolerance of the Christian religion.
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I agree, what goes on here in many instances goes far beyond rejecting Christianity. Some of the atheist posters here actually remind me of radical Islamists.
And certain people here just seem to be hateful people, but I seem to run into that type more and more of late, even out in the "real" world. I'm not a psychologist but it seems many are missing a significant part of a healthy personality.
Regards,
Comrade Happyguy
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LOL... I'll admit I'm trolling this thread. I just hate happyguy's guts.
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12-05-2012, 09:09
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Originally Posted by JBnTX
I have no tolerance for Catholics. Idol worshiping, child abusing, mackerel snapping heathens posing as Christians.
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And yet they make up the strongest (largest) part of your religion.
Go figure.
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12-05-2012, 09:13
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Originally Posted by happyguy
I agree, what goes on here in many instances goes far beyond rejecting Christianity. Some of the atheist posters here actually remind me of radical Islamists.
And certain people here just seem to be hateful people, but I seem to run into that type more and more of late, even out in the "real" world. I'm not a psychologist but it seems many are missing a significant part of a healthy personality.
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I don't think it's everyone else... I think it's you.
And c'mon... you mean to tell me you think you were being nice and respectful the other day with some of the things you posted. Howdy Pot... I'm Kettle.
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12-05-2012, 09:18
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Originally Posted by JBnTX
I have no tolerance
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We know.
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12-05-2012, 09:23
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Originally Posted by JBnTX
Why are you so afraid of something that you don't even believe in?
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You don't believe in Islam. Do its followers concern you?
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12-05-2012, 09:35
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Na Ben Don Chat
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Originally Posted by Glock36shooter
I don't think it's everyone else... I think it's you.
And c'mon... you mean to tell me you think you were being nice and respectful the other day with some of the things you posted. Howdy Pot... I'm Kettle.
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If I hurt your feelings I apologize.
Regards,
Comrade Happyguy
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Originally Posted by Glock36shooter
LOL... I'll admit I'm trolling this thread. I just hate happyguy's guts.
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12-05-2012, 09:37
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Na Ben Don Chat
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Originally Posted by Glock36shooter
We know.
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We also know that a couple of atheist posters have admitted they have no tolerance as well.
It's too late for you to try and get all high and mighty.
Regards,
Comrade Happyguy
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"This country was not created by reasonable men and it will not be saved by whining spineless dopes."
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Originally Posted by Glock36shooter
LOL... I'll admit I'm trolling this thread. I just hate happyguy's guts.
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12-05-2012, 09:41
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Originally Posted by happyguy
If I hurt your feelings I apologize.
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No hurt feelings. You just seem to be all full of venom and hatred one day and then acting like you just don't understand where all this negativity is coming from the next.
Maybe you were just having a bad day. It happens.
About every 28 days my chick turns into the devil.
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"If you can’t take a little bloody nose, maybe you ought to go back home and crawl under your bed. It’s not safe out here. It’s wondrous, with treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross. But it’s not for the timid."
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12-05-2012, 09:42
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Originally Posted by happyguy
We also know that a couple of atheist posters have admitted they have no tolerance as well.
It's too late for you to try and get all high and mighty.
Regards,
Comrade Happyguy 
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For you as well.
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"If you can’t take a little bloody nose, maybe you ought to go back home and crawl under your bed. It’s not safe out here. It’s wondrous, with treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross. But it’s not for the timid."
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12-05-2012, 09:43
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Originally Posted by FCoulter
He told me he got a ban from the religion forum.
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I'm surprised to hear it. I never thought he said anything bad enough to merit a ban.
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12-05-2012, 09:44
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Na Ben Don Chat
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Originally Posted by Glock36shooter
No hurt feelings. You just seem to be all full of venom and hatred one day and then acting like you just don't understand where all this negativity is coming from the next.
Maybe you were just having a bad day. It happens.
About every 28 days my chick turns into the devil.
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I'm not one to be insulted and smile and turn the other cheek.
Regards,
Comrade Happyguy
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"This country was not created by reasonable men and it will not be saved by whining spineless dopes."
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Originally Posted by Glock36shooter
LOL... I'll admit I'm trolling this thread. I just hate happyguy's guts.
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12-05-2012, 09:45
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Misanthropist
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Originally Posted by bobtheelf
You don't believe in Islam. Do its followers concern you?
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Islam is one of the Abrahamic religions, and I certainly do believe in it's existence and recognize it as one of the world's true religions.
And yes it's followers concern me a great deal.
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12-05-2012, 09:46
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Originally Posted by happyguy
I'm not one to be insulted and smile and turn the other cheek.
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Comrade Happyguy 
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So you don't believe in following Christ's example. Understood.
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"If you can’t take a little bloody nose, maybe you ought to go back home and crawl under your bed. It’s not safe out here. It’s wondrous, with treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross. But it’s not for the timid."
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12-05-2012, 09:51
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Na Ben Don Chat
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Originally Posted by TK-421
If you consider yourself a true, diehard Christian, then I truly hope there isn't another like you.
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Smug insult...great.
Regards,
Comrade Happyguy
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"This country was not created by reasonable men and it will not be saved by whining spineless dopes."
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Originally Posted by Glock36shooter
LOL... I'll admit I'm trolling this thread. I just hate happyguy's guts.
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12-05-2012, 09:53
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Na Ben Don Chat
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Originally Posted by Glock36shooter
So you don't believe in following Christ's example. Understood.
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Not perfect and never claimed to be. But like I said in another thread, being a Christian doesn't mean being a door mat.
You seem to have a profound misunderstanding of Christs example or you wouldn't have posted that.
Regards,
Comrade Happyguy
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"This country was not created by reasonable men and it will not be saved by whining spineless dopes."
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Originally Posted by Glock36shooter
LOL... I'll admit I'm trolling this thread. I just hate happyguy's guts.
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12-05-2012, 09:57
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Originally Posted by happyguy
Not perfect and never claimed to be. But like I said in another thread, being a Christian doesn't mean being a door mat.
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Yes, like I said. Your religion is the easy one. You don't have to really follow your doctrine. You just have to say the words and do the dance and you're golden.
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You seem to have a profound misunderstanding of Christs example or you wouldn't have posted that.
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Yeah I know... we don't understand the bible the way you guys do. Keep telling yourself that.
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"If you can’t take a little bloody nose, maybe you ought to go back home and crawl under your bed. It’s not safe out here. It’s wondrous, with treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross. But it’s not for the timid."
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12-05-2012, 10:04
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Na Ben Don Chat
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Originally Posted by Glock36shooter
Yes, like I said. Your religion is the easy one. You don't have to really follow your doctrine. You just have to say the words and do the dance and you're golden.
Yeah I know... we don't understand the bible the way you guys do. Keep telling yourself that.
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Where did Christ say not to respond to insults?
Regards,
Comrade Happyguy
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"This country was not created by reasonable men and it will not be saved by whining spineless dopes."
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Originally Posted by Glock36shooter
LOL... I'll admit I'm trolling this thread. I just hate happyguy's guts.
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