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Old 12-06-2012, 17:11   #1
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Promotions

How do you really know you want one? Are you even SURE?


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Old 12-06-2012, 17:47   #2
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For the extra money?

Yeah, I'm sure.
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Old 12-06-2012, 17:52   #3
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The alternative is to be in my boat and be supervised by guys you trained 5 years ago. I passed on several promotional exams and stand by that decision still, but I am working for guys with less experience than myself. If you're not careful you'll be working for a zit faced 23 year old with big ol butt kissing lips.

The problem with some depts is if you pass on a promotion it can get locked in for several years before anything opens up.

We had a mass exodus 8 years ago of people retiring all at once, guys who passed on the promotion exam were stuck for a long time.

I am not a fan of my current administration and getting promoted puts me one rung closer to the fire. Besides I enjoy patrol.
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Old 12-06-2012, 18:05   #4
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If you are reluctant, do it. PDs everywhere need reluctant leaders, not raging self-loving egos that believe they deserve it.

If you get promoted, then throw all doubt to the wind and lead from the front. Even if you make the wrong decision, remember this: there is nothing worse than paralysis by analysis.
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Old 12-06-2012, 18:36   #5
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Even if you make the wrong decision, remember this: there is nothing worse than paralysis by analysis.
I like that.
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Paralysis by analysis

I like that !!!


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Old 12-06-2012, 19:04   #7
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If you are reluctant, do it. PDs everywhere need reluctant leaders, not raging self-loving egos that believe they deserve it.

If you get promoted, then throw all doubt to the wind and lead from the front. Even if you make the wrong decision, remember this: there is nothing worse than paralysis by analysis.
It's one thing to make the wrong decision. We can clean up the mess later.

But at least MAKE a decision. Some "leaders" can't do it.
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Old 12-06-2012, 19:44   #8
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For the extra money?

Yeah, I'm sure.
It's not a financial windfall, that's for sure. I'd lose a lot of what I like about life. I'd essentially ride a desk at 38 years of age.


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Old 12-06-2012, 21:19   #9
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I was promoted 3 months before I was eligible for retirement (23 and out). I lost my considerable seniority as a patrolman and my weekends off. I am very happy with my decision. I'm able to supervise and teach the new guys and make the first-line decisions I know need to be made. It is not for everyone, but it fit for me. Of course, sergeant is my ceiling. I'm still a cop after all!

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It's one thing to make the wrong decision. We can clean up the mess later.

But at least MAKE a decision. Some "leaders" can't do it.
I've got that Sgt. I often have to make up his mind. Sometimes for fun I get in his wheelhouse just to see him squirm a bit.


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Old 12-06-2012, 23:06   #11
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I have gone through that a few times and while I was pretty reluctant, I shuddered at the thought that some other guy who is going to be worse will get the job and I will suffer for it and kick myself every day when I go to work.
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Old 12-06-2012, 23:11   #12
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Didn't want to, but with 22 in, had to think about my pension. Regret it everyday.
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I reluctantly put in for a first line supervisor position here. They came to their senses and promoted three others instead. lol
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There must be a reason they are offering it to you? You are probably well thought of by your superiors. You may be able to make things better for your underlings, if you think of it this way. I am not trying to talk you into it though, especially if the money isn't there.
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Old 12-07-2012, 02:03   #15
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We have these types also. They shouldn't even be cops, let alone supervisors.
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Old 12-07-2012, 11:06   #16
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There must be a reason they are offering it to you? You are probably well thought of by your superiors. You may be able to make things better for your underlings, if you think of it this way. I am not trying to talk you into it though, especially if the money isn't there.
It hasn't been offered. I'd have to apply but as I understand it I'd have a good chance.

I calculated that including increased child care costs and deducting taxes, I'm looking at a stunning $2800 raise if I go after it.


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I woukd promote when possible. New challenges, more money, and an opportunity to fix things depending on how gangster you are.

Go for it.

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I don't play golf with the brass, so I wouldn't be eligible for promotion.
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Old 12-07-2012, 14:04   #19
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It hasn't been offered. I'd have to apply but as I understand it I'd have a good chance.

I calculated that including increased child care costs and deducting taxes, I'm looking at a stunning $2800 raise if I go after it.


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It's better than nothing, especially if your promotion could lead to something else.

Just food for thought.
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Old 12-07-2012, 14:35   #20
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My theory is to always go through the process. The worst thing that can happen is they offer you the position. Nothing says you have to take it. Use the time during the process to decide what you really want.
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