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Old 12-08-2012, 09:30   #61
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Old 12-08-2012, 10:11   #62
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Yeah they're full of it. Look up them using Kimber ambi safeties and guys sending them back and NH's CS giving them hell saying they won't warranty them. They knew if they wanted a strong ambi they'd have to buy them from Wilson. It's good that they started using melonite or whatever but their other coatings had issues. The biggest problem I have is that they are on remsport frame and slides. Nothing wrong with them but I'm not paying $3k for one when I can have either a DW (cheaper) or a Wilson or Brown. Whom, make their own stuff including their own frame and slides. Nighthawk merely buys stuff and rebadges it so I'm not impressed for that kind of money when Baer, Brown, GC, and Wilson are the competition. YMMV.
I remember NHC not guaranteeing their ambi safety in the past. Not sure if they are still using the same one. I would not be getting an ambi so that's not an issue for me. As for the slides and frame, I always thought they were built in house. I will ask NHC and see what they say. I would have an issue if they weren't. I know their Enforcer uses a Caspian frame. Thanks

From NHC website: http://www.nighthawkcustom.com/about-nighthawk/
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Old 12-08-2012, 10:35   #63
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I remember NHC not guaranteeing their ambi safety in the past. Not sure if they are still using the same one. I would not be getting an ambi so that's not an issue for me. As for the slides and frame, I always thought they were built in house. I will ask NHC and see what they say. I would have an issue if they weren't. I know their Enforcer uses a Caspian frame. Thanks

From NHC website: http://www.nighthawkcustom.com/about-nighthawk/
I don't like ambis either but I couldn't for the life of me understand the mentality of putting a Kimber part (some of the worst production parts out there by my experiences) on a custom gun.

"Now with undercut frames!!" <----- Glad they finally fixed that.
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Old 12-08-2012, 10:49   #64
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I don't like ambis either but I couldn't for the life of me understand the mentality of putting a Kimber part (some of the worst production parts out there by my experiences) on a custom gun.

"Now with undercut frames!!" <----- Glad they finally fixed that.
Looks like NHC is now using a forged ambi, built by them, according to their website. This began in Sep 2012.
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I don't like ambis either but I couldn't for the life of me understand the mentality of putting a Kimber part (some of the worst production parts out there by my experiences) on a custom gun.
Yeah, my Predator has a Kimber ambi, but my year newer Enforcer does not.
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Old 12-08-2012, 15:21   #66
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I'm not too sure of that. I spoke to a NHC rep recently and they said all of their parts are now forged, no castings. On par with WC bulletproof parts. Also, their standard BN treatment (not coating) is better than anything Wilson or Brown offers. If you want any color other than Black, they still use Permakote though.
The Black Nitride is so good, that Metaloy will not hardchrome a gun that has that finish. That kind of speaks for itself. It reminds me of a better version of what DW is using for their Duty Treatment, which is some damn good stuff.
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Joe just bought a new Nighthawk and I'm looking forward to his opinion. I will say some of the new Nighthawks at my shop feel pretty good.

Maybe they're bouncing back.
The Falcon I just got was built in 6/12 and is as good as anything I've ever seen from them. Including my #751 hardchromed bobtailed Predator II Commander, built entirely by Ron Phillips. That's about as early a model from NH as you're gonna find and Ron is a premeir gunsmith. This gun shoots lights out and is almost as tight as my Pro, minus the first breaking loose of the slide. No machine marks and just very well put together.

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Yeah they're full of it. Look up them using Kimber ambi safeties and guys sending them back and NH's CS giving them hell saying they won't warranty them. They knew if they wanted a strong ambi they'd have to buy them from Wilson. It's good that they started using melonite or whatever but their other coatings had issues. The biggest problem I have is that they are on remsport frame and slides. Nothing wrong with them but I'm not paying $3k for one when I can have either a DW (cheaper) or a Wilson or Brown. Whom, make their own stuff including their own frame and slides. Nighthawk merely buys stuff and rebadges it so I'm not impressed for that kind of money when Baer, Brown, GC, and Wilson are the competition. YMMV.
I agree with you 100% about what they were becoming and used to do, but I have all of the above mentioned guns, and this version is as good or better than some of those. I'm not saying that NH is back on track, but this is the best offering I've seen from them in a LONG time. I'm still not ever going own a T3. Not sure I'd take one for less than half price. But, IMO, they would be better off discontinuing that model. In all seriousness, I think about 7-8 out of 10 of those that I've seen, read/heard about, has had some sort of issue. I'm not giving NH the complete "back in business/on top of their game" award yet, but they are turning things around IMO. On a side note, Black Nitride is tougher than Melonite, as Metaloy can and will hardchrome a gun with a Melonite finish. Chris said the Black Nitride was some badass stuff. And if I'm gonna take anyone's opinion on finishes to the bank, it's Chris Peters.

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Encouraging news about Nighthawk, Joe.
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I agree. I hope they've turned things around permanently. At least they got this one right.
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Old 12-08-2012, 19:13   #69
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I agree. I hope they've turned things around permanently. At least they got this one right.
Like i said, I'm impressed with what I'm seeing at my shop. they just started carrying NHs in the fall of last year.
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Old 12-08-2012, 20:56   #70
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Encouraging news about Nighthawk, Joe.
I agree, I missed out buying a NH Talon (bought a Baer instead) years ago and I still want one but have not based on what I have heard as of late. Hope they get their old reputation back
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Old 12-08-2012, 21:03   #71
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I'm VERY happy with my new NH.
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I'm VERY happy with my new NH.
Now dang it I already asked you to stop it! Now I am thinking, "yeah yeah buy that NH you always wanted"

I hate you guys......bunch of enablers you are!
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I'll say this about it. I feel good enough about it to trust my life with it. Here's my CC rig for it. Brommeland Max Con V, loaded with 200+P Gold Dots. FYA.


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OK now I really hate you. I would explain why but I am going over to the N.H. site to browse for a Talon II. I hope you get a case of the "bubble gut squirts" tomorrow and spend all day in the john as punishment for tempting me sir!
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OK now I really hate you. I would explain why but I am going over to the N.H. site to browse for a Talon II. I hope you get a case of the "bubble gut squirts" tomorrow and spend all day in the john as punishment for tempting me sir!
I'm on a diet right now, so a good case of the squirts would only help the cause.
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OK now I really hate you. I would explain why but I am going over to the N.H. site to browse for a Talon II. I hope you get a case of the "bubble gut squirts" tomorrow and spend all day in the john as punishment for tempting me sir!
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I'm VERY happy with my new NH.
Very cool
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I'm on a diet right now, so a good case of the squirts would only help the cause.
Vison.....you on the john leaking like the Titanic......football on the TV.......announcer yelling "What a play....what a catch.....simply incredible...." and you running pants around your ankles towards the TV to see it........

Oh the humanity!
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Vison.....you on the john leaking like the Titanic......football on the TV.......announcer yelling "What a play....what a catch.....simply incredible...." and you running pants around your ankles towards the TV to see it........

Oh the humanity!
No problem's. That's what they make Tivo for man. I just press pause for da cause.
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No problem's. That's what they make Tivo for man. I just press pause for da cause.


Yeah much better than leaving a trail from the throne to the TV
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