Is prostitution really just capitalism? - Page 6

***JohnnyReb*** · 12-09-2012, 19:32

John Stossel investigates The Bunny Ranch - YouTube

***series1811*** · 12-10-2012, 07:22

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Originally Posted by jlavallee

It's not like there is a street pimp running them. They are medically tested and independant contractors who can choose to work in any brothel that wants them. You'd be surprised at how many are educated girls with other options if they choose.

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Medical testing for hookers is the biggest joke ever. Do they get tested after every customer? So all you have to worry about is all the guys between you and the last test.

And, I can't believe there is actually someone who believes the, "I'm a college graduate, but I just like hooking better," line.

Have a working relationship with a hooker versus a sexual business relationship and you will find out a lot more about them. Hookers make great informants for law enforcement, because you know, if they will sell their bodies, they will darn sure sell information on their customers and friends to you.

I understand hookers a lot better than I understand the people who go to them.

cowboy1964 · 12-10-2012, 08:02

Life is all about risks. I think the average "John" is about 100,000 times more likely to die an early death from cheeseburgers than he is from an STD. Or be killed by a drunk driver. etc etc blah blah blah

jlavallee · 12-10-2012, 08:04

Nothing you've said changes anything. Like it or not, prostitution has been around since the dawn of time and will be long after we're gone. Enacting prohibition on personal choices drives in the criminal element.

Like with anything, respecting someone else's choices isn't the same as endorsing them.

Alas, why try to talk sense to bible thumpers? No matter what the religion, a bible thumper hates nothing more than having to mind his own business. Like liberals, everyone has to believe exactly what they believe and live how they see fit. There is zero room for freedom because they know how everyone has to live. Hateful folks.

**kirgi08** · 12-10-2012, 08:24

Providing a service or meeting a need is capitalistic,no matter the provider.'08.

***series1811*** · 12-10-2012, 09:18

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Originally Posted by cowboy1964

Life is all about risks. I think the average "John" is about 100,000 times more likely to die an early death from cheeseburgers than he is from an STD. Or be killed by a drunk driver. etc etc blah blah blah

Almost no one dies from STDs any more. They may have to take medicine the rest of their life for them, but none are terminal any more with treatment.

But, still not very pleasant.

I never get the hooker thing. It's not like it's hard to have sex with normal women these days.

jlavallee · 12-10-2012, 10:12

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Originally Posted by series1811

Almost no one dies from STDs any more. They may have to take medicine the rest of their life for them, but none are terminal any more with treatment.

But, still not very pleasant.

I never get the hooker thing. It's not like it's hard to have sex with normal women these days.

I don't see the draw either and the typical bar trash isn't exactly a whole lot different but it isn't about that or STD's. It is about people owning their bodies, choices and others minding their own business.

***series1811*** · 12-10-2012, 13:55

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Originally Posted by jlavallee

I don't see the draw either and the typical bar trash isn't exactly a whole lot different but it isn't about that or STD's. It is about people owning their bodies, choices and others minding their own business.

I don't care if it's illegal or not. I just think it's kind of pathetic.

juggy4711 · 12-11-2012, 06:37

Politics is the art of achieving the maximum amount of freedom for individuals that is consistent with the maintenance of social order. - Barry Goldwater

There are far too many laws restricting freedom that pose no threat to social order.

Gundude · 12-11-2012, 08:20

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Originally Posted by series1811

I never get the hooker thing. It's not like it's hard to have sex with normal women these days.

As the old adage goes, you're not paying her for the sex, you're paying her to leave afterwards.

"Normal women" still have a ways to go in that regard.

***series1811*** · 12-11-2012, 08:50

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Originally Posted by Gundude

As the old adage goes, you're not paying her for the sex, you're paying her to leave afterwards.

"Normal women" still have a ways to go in that regard.

I guess that depends on your definiton of "normal".

Bren · 12-11-2012, 09:01

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Originally Posted by series1811

I guess that depends on your definiton of "normal".

Ever been to a country where prostitution is legal, like Germany? Whole different thing than here. Your arguments are about like saying, "we need to keep drugs illegal because of all the dangerous gangs that sell them."

***series1811*** · 12-11-2012, 09:04

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Originally Posted by Bren

Ever been to a country where prostitution is legal, like Germany? Whole different thing than here. Your arguments are about like saying, "we need to keep drugs illegal because of all the dangerous gangs that sell them."

Yes, actually I have. I wasn't impressed.

Ignoring a problem isn't the same as solving it, although ignoring it will be enough for most people.

Like any other activity, the public will tolerate and allow, what the public will tolerate and allow. Doesn't mean I'm converted.

snerd · 12-11-2012, 09:30

Just wanted to weigh in on this............. I've almost stopped watching the Cops show because of prostitution "stings" and kids busted for having a joint. Do you all really think that we don't have more important things to expend our resources on?! Neither one is ever going to be stopped, and they are both a cash cow for law enforcement and the legal system. I don't agree with either so-called "crime", but sheesh, let's get a grip here and turn our attention to more pressing problems.

jlavallee · 12-11-2012, 09:30

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Originally Posted by series1811

I don't care if it's illegal or not. I just think it's kind of pathetic.

You're totally entitled to think it is pathetic but you should care that it is illegal because government being allowed to outlaw free choices of consenting adults opens the door for them to infringe on your right to make your own choices like where or if you buy health insurance.

***series1811*** · 12-11-2012, 12:22

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Originally Posted by jlavallee

You're totally entitled to think it is pathetic but you should care that it is illegal because government being allowed to outlaw free choices of consenting adults opens the door for them to infringe on your right to make your own choices like where or if you buy health insurance.

There are a lot of things the government has outlawed that I don't agree with. But, I comply, nevertheless, because that is the contract we made when we adapted our Constitutional form of representative government. Just because I didn't sign doesn't mean I don't agree to be bound by it.

Fear Night · 12-11-2012, 12:37

Let the states decide. The less the federal government tells us what we can or can't do, the better.

jlavallee · 12-11-2012, 12:37

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Originally Posted by series1811

There are a lot of things the government has outlawed that I don't agree with. But, I comply, nevertheless, because that is the contract we made when we adapted our Constitutional form of representative government. Just because I didn't sign doesn't mean I don't agree to be bound by it.

Sigh, the purpose of government is to protect individual liberty. We the people empower it with some of our rights but it doesn't have rights because of a collective as communism suggests or you seem to imply. It doesn't have rights that we don't have and therefore, isn't supposed to infringe on our rights unless we've been tried and found guilty of a crime against another by a jury of our peers.

The initation of force that the government claims the right to is as a result of people allowing BS like that to happen. Next time you're looted by the IRS to pay for a schmuck who won't get off their arse but wants free Obama stuff (see your sig line) just remember that YOU are endorsing the overreach of government with your silence.

***series1811*** · 12-11-2012, 13:41

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Originally Posted by jlavallee

Sigh, the purpose of government is to protect individual liberty. We the people empower it with some of our rights but it doesn't have rights because of a collective as communism suggests or you seem to imply. It doesn't have rights that we don't have and therefore, isn't supposed to infringe on our rights unless we've been tried and found guilty of a crime against another by a jury of our peers.

The initation of force that the government claims the right to is as a result of people allowing BS like that to happen. Next time you're looted by the IRS to pay for a schmuck who won't get off their arse but wants free Obama stuff (see your sig line) just remember that YOU are endorsing the overreach of government with your silence.

I don't think you would like a world where everybody only follows the rules they like as much as you think you would.

There are other laws besides those on weed and hookers that some people don't like to follow.

Besides, you keep wanting me to say I think prostitution should be illegal. I'm not saying that. I'm saying that hookers and the people who go to them are pathetic, but for different reasons. That's not the same as saying it should be against the law.

jlavallee · 12-11-2012, 23:22

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Originally Posted by series1811

I don't think you would like a world where everybody only follows the rules they like as much as you think you would.

Nobody said anything about only following rules they like. There is no "right" to infringe on another and you still have contracts that must be abided by if you enter into them but barring that, you're free to live your life as you choose. Big difference.

**kirgi08** · 12-11-2012, 23:56

It's called "ZAP" "zero aggression principle".'08.

***series1811*** · 12-12-2012, 07:16

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Originally Posted by jlavallee

Nobody said anything about only following rules they like. There is no "right" to infringe on another and you still have contracts that must be abided by if you enter into them but barring that, you're free to live your life as you choose. Big difference.

I'm sorry, I thought you didn't like the rule against prostituiton, and therefore think you shouldn't have to follow it, because you don't think it hurts anybody.

I've got rules I don't like, too. I follow them. Be glad.

And, a final news article by one of the willing participants. If you could read this and feel good about having paid this woman for sex, then you are a different person from me.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/olympi...9390--oly.html