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Old 12-12-2012, 12:24   #361
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Only at close range.
yeah, but still same can be said with irons, i shoot better with a red dot than irons all around, long range needs a scope....or a red dot magnifier

Irons suck, but they always work so some backups are always wanted
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Old 12-13-2012, 05:36   #362
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when i get an ar15, im getting an optic, ill make sure i always have irons on it, and make sure i train with them, so if i need to use them im proficient. But red dots blow iron sights out of the water
...until they die! ....Then you need the irons. No batteries in iron sights.
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Old 12-13-2012, 06:08   #363
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I have yet to have the batteries die in any of my Aimpoints, and I leave them on, 24/7/365. They get changed once a year.

You should absolutely know how to use iron sights, and if the gun is capable, should have a set of BUIS on it, but the red dots absolutely do blow the irons out of the water for most realistic shooting.
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Old 12-13-2012, 08:20   #364
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im starting on irons only when i get it to get proficient, and while i save money for a red dot. Once i get a red dot, im keeping backup sights on there. If a dot fails you can flip up an iron or have a fied one cowitnessed. Theres always the irons dont break there always ready crowd, they always pretend not to notice you can have both.
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Old 12-14-2012, 05:02   #365
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Old 12-17-2012, 08:24   #366
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I put my Troy rear sights on and shot this weekend.The "long distance" aperture is a "bullhorn" (?). Do you sight in center or where the horns come together? I didn't have time to get to those.....................DOC
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Old 12-17-2012, 19:01   #367
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I put my Troy rear sights on and shot this weekend.The "long distance" aperture is a "bullhorn" (?). Do you sight in center or where the horns come together? I didn't have time to get to those.....................DOC
Center the tip of the front post in the middle of the rear aperture. Only focus on the front site, your eye should work to naturally center that site post in the aperture
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Old 12-18-2012, 14:21   #369
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Serious situations don't always give you the luxury of shooting from the classic positions. There's a reason that virtually everyone who goes into harm's way for a living uses optics (if available/affordable).
I agree with this. On my duty rifle I do have and use the BUIS but the primary site is an EOTECH.

On my plinking gun (the one I'm teaching my son rifle with) it is the included Magpul sights only.
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I agree with this. On my duty rifle I do have and use the BUIS but the primary site is an EOTECH.

On my plinking gun (the one I'm teaching my son rifle with) it is the included Magpul sights only.
Optics can offer many different advantages, depending on the one used. More leeway in eye position/cheek weld (or lack thereof), faster (no lining two thing up), usable even in very low light (red dot/holographic/illuminated reticle), magnification, light gathering, etc.

A good optic that matches your use for the gun is usually a good investment
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Well Warp I guess teaching the use of irons is a good place to start.
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