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Old 01-03-2013, 06:11   #1
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In search of .223 55g FMJ's

I finally sat down to reload some 223 last night and realized that I'm down to my last few hundred 55g FMJ's . What great timing.

All my usual places I buy (Westcoast brass, MG, Pat's reloading, Wideners) are all out of stock.

Any of you fellows purchase recently. Looking for bulk order of 2-4K.

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Old 01-03-2013, 09:36   #2
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Good luck in your search, you'll need it.
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Old 01-03-2013, 10:02   #3
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You can get them from Canada right now.

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Old 01-03-2013, 10:03   #4
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Good Luck, I have been searching those places and more like Grafs, Midway, TJ Conevera, Midsouth, and Natchez for a friend who just got a new AR and have had no luck at all.
Luckily for me, I have a good supply of Hornady 55 gr. bullets. But it sure doesn't look good out there.
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Old 01-03-2013, 21:03   #5
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Natchez has Hornady 55gr FMJ's in stock as of a few minutes ago.
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Old 01-03-2013, 21:05   #6
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Wait about 6 months to a year when the hysteria dies down.
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Old 01-03-2013, 22:18   #7
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I stocked up with 2 extra cases from MG couple months back. Their website currently states Jan 14th and they will have more. Keep an eye on it.
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Old 01-03-2013, 23:15   #8
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Keep checking Widener's too. So I am now thinking I wasn't being extravegant buying swaging dies to make my own 223 from free 22lr cases & scrap lead . Things will probably get better, but then maybe not?
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Old 01-03-2013, 23:20   #9
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I backordered several thousand with MidwayUSA (2 packages of 2000 each), since I get a discount there. I'm not in dire need of them. I seem to recall they were forecasting mid January at the time that I ordered. Don't know where current orders fall in line.
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Old 01-04-2013, 19:49   #10
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I stocked up with 2 extra cases from MG couple months back. Their website currently states Jan 14th and they will have more. Keep an eye on it.
Boxer how do you like the Montana Golds? I have been shooting the bulk Hornady's with great results and have been hearing the MG's are just as accurate. I was thinking of trying some when I run out of the Hornady's.
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Keep checking Widener's too. So I am now thinking I wasn't being extravegant buying swaging dies to make my own 223 from free 22lr cases & scrap lead . Things will probably get better, but then maybe not?
The CRB in me has been wondering how that project is going.
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I hope I don't get that desperate.
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I hope I don't get that desperate.
Just in case you do

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Boxer how do you like the Montana Golds? I have been shooting the bulk Hornady's with great results and have been hearing the MG's are just as accurate. I was thinking of trying some when I run out of the Hornady's.
I've actually found the MGs to be just as accurate if not more so... Given the same load. Of course YMMV.
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Just in case you do

http://youtu.be/bkAU5ekbPLA

That is the craziest thing I have ever seen, but I want to try it.
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The CRB in me has been wondering how that project is going.
That's a pretty crude way to get bullets but I guess it works to a fashion. Swaging dies come in a set. One to form the jacket using any 22lr or even 22mag case No trimming is need unless you are searching for a specific wt heavier than 60gr or so. Then you would trim 22mag brass. Then a core needs to be made. You can use either extruded lead wire, expensive, or cast from scrap (the die set comes w/ a 11cav mold), free. Then a die to form the core to perfect wt. Then a die to seat the core, then one to form the final bullet shape & bump to the correct dia.
That U-tube vid has me wondering how he gets the bullet to the correct dia, but a proper die set will do it all in steps. With an auto eject to remove the bullet, I am told 200/hr is easily done. Of course it all goes in steps & you want to process as many in each step as possible to save time.
I am doing it not so much to save money, I don't shoot the nearly as much as my handguns, but mostly to be self suffcient for 223 & to advance my reloading skills/knowledge. In a shortage or even a possible ban on internet sales of components, I can make as many 223 bullets as I can find spent 22lr & lead, & that would be limitless. It takes a mere 7# of lead to make 1000 55-56gr bullets. So when I get the balance of the dies, so far only have the derim or jacket making die, I'll let you guys know how it goes.
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You can get them from Canada right now.

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Does anyone know if bulk bullets can be brought into US from Canada legally?
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Does anyone know if bulk bullets can be brought into US from Canada legally?
I would bet that if it were possible that one would have to pay duty. Although if you just had the fellow put 'bulk lead' on the invoice instead of 'bullets' you may be ok. Give him a call.
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That's a pretty crude way to get bullets but I guess it works to a fashion. Swaging dies come in a set. One to form the jacket using any 22lr or even 22mag case No trimming is need unless you are searching for a specific wt heavier than 60gr or so. Then you would trim 22mag brass. Then a core needs to be made. You can use either extruded lead wire, expensive, or cast from scrap (the die set comes w/ a 11cav mold), free. Then a die to form the core to perfect wt. Then a die to seat the core, then one to form the final bullet shape & bump to the correct dia.
That U-tube vid has me wondering how he gets the bullet to the correct dia, but a proper die set will do it all in steps. With an auto eject to remove the bullet, I am told 200/hr is easily done. Of course it all goes in steps & you want to process as many in each step as possible to save time.
I am doing it not so much to save money, I don't shoot the nearly as much as my handguns, but mostly to be self suffcient for 223 & to advance my reloading skills/knowledge. In a shortage or even a possible ban on internet sales of components, I can make as many 223 bullets as I can find spent 22lr & lead, & that would be limitless. It takes a mere 7# of lead to make 1000 55-56gr bullets. So when I get the balance of the dies, so far only have the derim or jacket making die, I'll let you guys know how it goes.
Fred...

Where do you get the die set from and... do you have a video showing how you do this?
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