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Old 01-06-2013, 15:26   #41
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Interesting..

I was one of those expecting a big explosion of crime from the economic downturn, but I was wrong. Even in Detroit most crimes are down. The one exception is homicides, unfortunately. That's mostly rival drug dealers and gang bangers settling disputes.

I agree with Dosei, there's a lot of factors, and certainly CCW is one of them.

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Old 01-06-2013, 15:27   #42
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In Detroit everything that can be stolen has and criminals don't report it when stolen property is stolen from them.


well, there is that... shouldn't you say criminals don't report stolen property when it is restolen from them?

Kind of like regifting for criminals...

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Old 01-06-2013, 16:58   #43
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IIRC, ABC eventually admitted that this scenario was a staged.
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Old 01-07-2013, 08:28   #44
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Too funny!! And sadly...too correct!!

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I am not someone that thinks Shall Issue laws and the increase of responsible law abiding people carrying concealed weapons is "THE" reason for the drop. I am someone that rather adamantly believes that there are ALWAYS reasons...it never is solely because of "just one thing". There are always many contributing factors. I do, however, believe that it is one of the many contributing factors.
It may not be the only reason, but it is easy to make it the MAIN reason.




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well, there is that... shouldn't you say criminals don't report stolen property when it is restolen from them?

Kind of like regifting for criminals...

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Old 01-07-2013, 14:38   #46
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My difficulty with the anti firearm folks is all the nonsense they keep spreading about and their refusal to engage in an open honest discussion.

Let's face it: If being a gun free zone actually prevented crime, then schools and prisons would be among the safest places in the USA.

Add all the local places that have strict gun control. Bernie Goetz would never have had to shoot the muggers attacking him. And the only movie theater to ban CCW in that CO town would never have had their poor unarmed movie patrons shot by that nutcase crook..
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Old 01-07-2013, 19:49   #47
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I remember seeing that junk and discussing it online. Junk, that is all it is. I disagree with their uneducated method & hypothesis & so does the turd I had to deal with a few weeks ago.
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Old 01-08-2013, 15:40   #48
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I think anyone is ineffective if the attacker has a firearm out and pointing at you,be silly to try to bring yours out unless you thought they would shoot anyway,then most likly both shot you twice since he had his out him once,with you having the biggest problem.
Last resort situation,distracted stand a chance,against other weapons stand a bigger chance,like ball bat at ten ft and you see it coming.
Carrying a gun does not mean you wont die,but stand a better chance of taking them with you or averting it all together.
Would it pay to stop a crime if it resulted in a gunfight,with others in the vicinity.
Assuming they are whacco yes, otherwise no.
I wouldn't miss my target mugger!
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