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Old 01-10-2013, 22:06   #21
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Not any more, I work at a secure facility where we have armed guards at the gate and roaming the building, and we can keep guns in the car. But when I worked for one of the most socialist anti American companies in AZ, call them Indian Express, I carried a gun into the buiding for more than 3 years and never got made. It was one of those places that had no respect for their worker bees (they did not have employees), and the chances of a ticked off ex worker with a gun was real. If you are worried about being made, carry a smaller gun, and if somebody bumps into you and questions you, tell them it is a medical device..
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Old 01-10-2013, 22:54   #22
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Not any more, I work at a secure facility where we have armed guards at the gate and roaming the building, and we can keep guns in the car. But when I worked for one of the most socialist anti American companies in AZ, call them Indian Express, I carried a gun into the buiding for more than 3 years and never got made. It was one of those places that had no respect for their worker bees (they did not have employees), and the chances of a ticked off ex worker with a gun was real. If you are worried about being made, carry a smaller gun, and if somebody bumps into you and questions you, tell them it is a medical device..
Or a support for your jock strap.

I can relate to the "worker bees" anology with so many American businesses. Ever work retail? Contract security? I don't even want to think about the poor souls manning phone banks. Since unions have been forced to eat the sandwitch, such company behaviour spreads like a cancer throughout the American work force. But over the years I have seen dozens of happy worker bees, working for much lower pay, little or reduced benefits, horrific working conditions that will fight you tooth and nail to keep a union out. Mostly because they won't pay a few dollars in union dues. I lost a good welding job back years ago because I mentioned I was ok with a union. One of my co-slaves told me... "You are on Finney's s----list now!" When I asked why that was he said. "You said you liked unions." After a consentrated storm, I lasted about another month or so.

A certain flooring company in the hills of West Virginia, (now long unionized after a terrible bloodbath of hundreds ofwrongfully fired employees) was the same way. I expected a postal style shootout there every morning of the world. Abismal working conditions, and a small group of workers that voted a union out every time.

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Old 01-10-2013, 23:10   #23
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one job never,the other I dont leave home without it.
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Old 01-10-2013, 23:15   #24
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None of us would knowingly ever carry anywhere where it's illegal or against policy....ever.

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Old 01-10-2013, 23:20   #25
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I bend and lift and tons of other things that would out me pretty easy....so I don't. It is against company policy.
My previous job was in a stadium, so I didn't carry during the day...we would count money at night and before we did myself and my boss would go get our weapons out of the car...counting thousands and thousands of dollars every night will make you a little nervous.
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Old 01-11-2013, 15:34   #26
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I work at an indoor sports arena. my boss is a boarder line gun guy. he likes guns and owns a .22. he even bought me a membership to a gun club.

our maintenance guy keeps his in the truck and claims if it were his business he would fire anyone who carried in his business. my boss has asked me not to carry.

he claims that he talked with his lawyer and that because we occasionally have school teams in our private facility that our building could be considered school grounds.my boss worries more about his business if I had to defend my self then he does about my safety.

Now, I'm here late at night (1 am) and am the only employee on in a 150,000 sq foot building in a not so good part of town. we have been broke in to and I routinely deal with homeless people. my boss keeps a baseball bat with him when he is here late nights.

I HATE NOT Carrying but I really can't afford to lose my job. this is the only place I go i do not feel safe. (cause i can't carry)

does anyone believe that a private establishment could be considered a school?
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Old 01-11-2013, 16:13   #27
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I work at an indoor sports arena. my boss is a boarder line gun guy. he likes guns and owns a .22. he even bought me a membership to a gun club.

our maintenance guy keeps his in the truck and claims if it were his business he would fire anyone who carried in his business. my boss has asked me not to carry.

he claims that he talked with his lawyer and that because we occasionally have school teams in our private facility that our building could be considered school grounds.my boss worries more about his business if I had to defend my self then he does about my safety.

Now, I'm here late at night (1 am) and am the only employee on in a 150,000 sq foot building in a not so good part of town. we have been broke in to and I routinely deal with homeless people. my boss keeps a baseball bat with him when he is here late nights.

I HATE NOT Carrying but I really can't afford to lose my job. this is the only place I go i do not feel safe. (cause i can't carry)

does anyone believe that a private establishment could be considered a school?
That's law here in Texas. If a school event is being held at a site off school premises, the event premises do indeed become (school grounds). I feel for you! I am torn,Ike my job, don't need it though (wife is an executive @ Fortune 500 co.) but still don't want to lose job. instructor at ccl class said "do not lose your job over company ccl policy. Still torn though.....

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Old 01-12-2013, 08:47   #28
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I work for the USAF so unfortunately I am in a gun free zone :(
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Old 01-12-2013, 12:02   #29
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Arizona is a right to work state so I could be fired for anything. Company has a policy against firearms on property or anywhere they are conducting business. Even if they didn't have that policy it would be difficult for my since my job takes me into hospitals, courts, police departments, schools, post office and other prohibited areas on a regular basis.

I would if I could. Just I like having a job in this economy and in my little town the only shootings have been suicide, cop self-defense, and angry tweaker road rage.

Feel reasonably safe without and better that wherever I am my car is with me and I do carry in the car at work. The parking lot issue isn't mentioned in the personnel handbook.
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Old 02-03-2013, 22:54   #30
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I carry just about every day, even though there's a small paragraph prohibiting it in the handbook. One of the owners (small company) carries, so I figure, why not?

However, I do lots of work off site, and often in schools. When I'm there, I lock it in the truck (hate leaving a firearm out of my personal control that's not locked up at home) And I often have to travel to states where the CC laws are not as friendly as Idaho's. It sometimes means I'm not carrying (not even in the vehicle) in places where I think I might actually need to. (like Oakland, for example. I was working there a few years ago, and had to get buzzed into Taco Bell, at 2 in the afternoon Probably a sign that I wasn't in the best neighborhood)

I do ignore the gun free zones when I'm in my home state and not working though. (movie theaters, malls, etc, but never government buildings) I don't frequent these establishments, but if I happen to be at one of these places when some psycho starts shooting the place up, I'll fight the charges of carrying where I'm not allowed, if it means I was able to defend my family or others.
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Old 02-03-2013, 23:01   #31
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We are allowed to keep weapons in our vehicles, as long as they are locked up and out of sight. But company policy states we cannot bring weapons into the building. I like my job to much to violate that policy on purpose.
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Old 02-04-2013, 02:36   #32
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I work at a water treatment plant on 3rd shift(I am the only one here) for right now and I am always carrying.
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Old 02-04-2013, 12:54   #33
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Yup, I'm also the boss. I allow clients to carry as well.... at least those that I know about. I assure them I'm cool with it. Of course if I had actual concerns (hint in my user name) I'd take a different approach, but it has yet to be an issue.
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Old 02-04-2013, 13:12   #34
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If your user name means what I think it does, I've been in the same field for 20 years. Have seen too many like us beaten to near death - and killed by unexpectedly violent clients. Seems like carrying should be as common for us as for jewelry store staff...and as understood.
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Old 02-04-2013, 13:57   #35
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I work in a locked mental health unit, its a federal offense to enter with a firearm even if you are LEO. Even if it was allowed I wouldnt carry there, our patients are unpredictable and I wouldnt chance one of them getting a firearm. A taser on the other hand would be helpful sometimes.

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Old 02-04-2013, 14:01   #36
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If your user name means what I think it does, I've been in the same field for 20 years. Have seen too many like us beaten to near death - and killed by unexpectedly violent clients. Seems like carrying should be as common for us as for jewelry store staff...and as understood.
Thanks for chiming in, I assumed I was alone here. I know this is always a risk, but I've been fortunate enough not to have experienced this personally, as I work with higher functioning people. I don't worry about "crazy" people; I worry about the pi$$ed-off parent who lost custody and wants to take it out on someone. Leaving an office park alone at night isn't the safest thing either.
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I work in a locked mental health unit, its a federal offense to enter with a firearm even if you are LEO. Even if it was allowed I wouldnt carry there, our patients are unpredictable and I wouldnt chance one of them getting a firearm. A taser on the other hand would be helpful sometimes.

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I didn't know that, but am surprized it's actually federal, rather than state. It makes sense for locked facilities. I'm in a private practice setting and don't envy you. But then again, with changes in health care, I may be out of business by the end of the year, and you'll still have a job.
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Old 02-04-2013, 14:30   #38
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I live in the great state of Texas. I CC but at my work it is against policy and with Texas being a no-fault state I can be fired for any and all reasons. I'll admit I have but am always worried I will "literally" bump into the wrong person and be outed. How many of you guys carry while disregarding employment policy?
disregarding employment policy can also get you:

1. Class A Misdemeanor Criminal trespass by concealed handgun license holder
2. revocation of CHL

I am in TX also, anbd have considered it, but decide to remain the 'law abiding citizen' and keep a spec ops 101 limited folding rescue pocket knife with me at all times.
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That's law here in Texas. If a school event is being held at a site off school premises, the event premises do indeed become (school grounds). I feel for you! I am torn,Ike my job, don't need it though (wife is an executive @ Fortune 500 co.) but still don't want to lose job. instructor at ccl class said "do not lose your job over company ccl policy. Still torn though.....

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yep he's right. even if it's a McDonald's and they hold a tour for a school... have to get up and leave because it just became school grounds.
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Not an option at my company. There are 30.06 signs are every entrance to the campus.
are they in compliance?
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