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Old 10-07-2012, 22:17   #421
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I'm sorry, 20' are about 7 meters, try it on 20 yards, off hand with standard issue G22 and then come and tell me how sharp are you with your stock Glock...
Fire about 5 rounds at a decent pace at 20' and make one hole. I've only seen maybe 1 in 50 at best that can do that no matter what gun they have. I'm not a machine but 25 yards is not a problem. Not one hole any more though so less fun for me.

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If you agree on the Ransom Rest what is your point then ?
Some kind of controlled test vs. you all just "think" it did something would be more useful information.

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Just because in your hands the gun is sharp this means that we all should be shooting as you do ?
Nope. It means the guns are much more accurate than most here realize otherwise they'd waste less money on gimmicks and spend it on training to get them past their shooting issues.

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If I can dump the mag of my G22 in 4-7" circle, rapid fire, on 7-10 yards, I'll be happy. This slide lock did shrink my group little bit and this is all I care about.
If you THINK it helped you I am glad for you.

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Your abilities with G26 or 17 are irrelevant for the subject of this conversation because theoretically and practically the device is proven to do whatever it was intended to do.
I don't agree with the theory of it. I feel the theory is flawed. I don't agree that it has been proven in practice. If I had some miracle device that would magically improve the accuracy I would have tests that proved it. I can still remember when aftermarket guide rods first came out for the Glock and people were convince they made dramatic differences in accuracy.

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If you can recognize an attack, draw and fire 5 shots in one POA, on 7' this is great, good for you. I cannot do it and I don't have time to do all of the required training for such result so devices as this-one are in my opinion helping me, what's your case... frankly, I don't care...
I think you are CONVINCED it is helping you.
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Old 10-07-2012, 22:19   #422
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i have a hard time believing they chipped enough to effect the performance of the gun, if at all
I have a hard time believing you would not consider that an issue. If the man making this wants advice on how to fix it and make it work for the newer guns then he can PM for some free advice.
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Old 11-18-2012, 11:18   #423
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I wouldn't normally post this here but since these are no longer being sold and several of you are looking for one, I have a very lightly used one I will sell for the original price including shipping. First to PM me for paypal gift instructions gets it and i'll ship tomorrow morning.

I bought it direct from TR in June 2011 and shot maybe 100 rounds using it. Never caused any issues, I just removed it before selling the gun it was in and never reinstalled it.
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Old 11-18-2012, 12:01   #424
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I purchased two and installed one in my G35, I never got around to installing the other one. Someone could buy one or both. PM if interested, same deal as JBarbaresi.
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Old 11-19-2012, 22:34   #425
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Frankly I think it is a device made for people that don't understand how their Glocks work. At twenty feet I can take my either of my 17's and consistenty have 5 shots all at worst still touching each other. So what would this device do for me exactly? I think people get it, think it makes their gun more accurate, gain some confidence, and do shoot better. I've never seen a Glock with an accuracy problem that didn't end up being a shooter grip, trigger, or flinching problem. Want to impress me when this product comes back out? Get two identical factory stock 17's. In one put this device. The other leave the factory device. Get a group of 5 good shooters together. Let each one do tests with 5 rounds per gun. Switch them so one time they shoot one or the other first but never tell them which has the device. Prove that the device does what some of you claim vs. just thinking it does.
Been there. Done that. Same G17, I just took it down and slid in the MGSL. Got several target sheets somewhere in my garage, too much trouble to find it now. Convinced long ago.

Good idea on the test. Same shooter, Same gun, Same day, Same ammo 10 rounds each. I would recommend that everyone do this, to prove it to themselves.

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Old 11-19-2012, 23:50   #426
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BroncoAZ, PM sent re MGSL's
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Old 12-30-2012, 04:19   #427
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hey can i buy one/some of these from anybody please?
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Old 01-05-2013, 12:37   #428
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Withdrawn; Keeping it for one of my older Glocks.

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Old 01-08-2013, 08:07   #429
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Old 01-17-2013, 22:02   #430
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Gents, after over a year the MGSL is back in production....!

The new MGSL will work with any model (EXCEPT G36) or generation Glock. They are CNC manufactured by AroTek, and feature a different material steel and heat treatment with a precisely beveled barrel lug engagement surface. (Also newly designed finger tabs, so no more bite with a thumb forward hold.)

Interested parties can contact me for more information at Grhm458@cs.com, or just PM me here.
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Old 01-18-2013, 16:44   #431
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Old 01-18-2013, 20:06   #432
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T R Great News,I'm glad to see your fine MGSL back in production. SJ 40
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Old 02-11-2013, 20:59   #433
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Gents, after over a year the MGSL is back in production....!

The new MGSL will work with any model (EXCEPT G36) or generation Glock. They are CNC manufactured by AroTek, and feature a different material steel and heat treatment with a precisely beveled barrel lug engagement surface. (Also newly designed finger tabs, so no more bite with a thumb forward hold.)

Interested parties can contact me for more information at Grhm458@cs.com, or just PM me here.
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Old 02-11-2013, 23:13   #434
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Glad to hear it! Sent ya a pm


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Old 03-06-2013, 20:24   #435
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Great news. I just picked up my first Gen4 so this is exactly what I need.
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Old 04-22-2013, 11:16   #436
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MGSL Update?

Any users with an quick update/photos of Mr. Graham's new Match Grade Slide Lock?
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Old 05-03-2013, 15:11   #437
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Old 05-03-2013, 21:02   #438
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Would love to see pics of new MGSL, and a range report. Considering buying one or two.
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Old 05-11-2013, 09:03   #439
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Without reading the many posts here I would like to say that I have well over 15,000 rounds through my G21 that has one of Mr. Grahams MGSL's in it.
I stopped keeping track at the 15,000 round count.
I have no indication of a problem with the piece or the gun.
Still working perfectly.
What's the deal with the change?
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Old 05-11-2013, 09:43   #440
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Without reading the many posts here I would like to say that I have well over 15,000 rounds through my G21 that has one of Mr. Grahams MGSL's in it.
I stopped keeping track at the 15,000 round count.
I have no indication of a problem with the piece or the gun.
Still working perfectly.
What's the deal with the change?
Seems when Glock changed their hardening methods,starting with the doted pentagon markings on the barrel some lockup engagement lug chipping with the use of MGSL was noticed.

Not a issue to me or any of my Glocks with the MGSL installed as my newest Glock was produced !!/05 prior to Glocks changes. SJ 40
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