Grip question - Page 2

SARDG · 01-31-2013, 14:42

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Originally Posted by emtjr928

Some folks will also refer to this as a "tactical" reload. Some of our USPSA and LEO shooters will reload in this manner. Also some will refer to muzzle not breaking the "180" which extends vertically and horizontally.
I too wish that the printed rules would "keep up" and be all inclusive.

And interestingly, IDPA does not have a 180 rule, only "Muzzle Safe Points".

emtjr928 · 01-31-2013, 16:55

I guess I need to get a copy of the IDPA Rule Book and read that, too!

SARDG · 01-31-2013, 17:12

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Originally Posted by emtjr928

I guess I need to get a copy of the IDPA Rule Book and read that, too!

They're online... but all that matters in the end are the GSSF rules - whatever they may be on a given day.

emtjr928 · 01-31-2013, 17:18

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Originally Posted by SARDG

They're online... but all that matters in the end are the GSSF rules - whatever they may be on a given day.

I know. I am just interested for personal enrichment.

shakazulu12 · 02-01-2013, 00:49

For what it's worth, I was at an armorers class today, the rep did discuss the beavertail a bit. He stated it was due in a couple of months, but with everything so chaotic right now things could change.

Comrade Bork · 02-04-2013, 14:42

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Originally Posted by SARDG

GSSF is now allowing the muzzle to be in "another safe direction authorized by the Range Officer" - which will not specifically be "towards the targets" and may in fact be over the impact berm.

GSSF is specifically designed for new, and thus ignorant, shooters.

I think the purpose of this rule is if someone shows up with a "hot" gun.

A Law Enforcement officer, someone with a CCW, or just some moron who carries a loaded gun in a gun bag.

The rule allows any RO to march them over to a handy berm and safely unload.

SARDG · 02-04-2013, 15:45

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Originally Posted by Comrade Bork

GSSF is specifically designed for new, and thus ignorant, shooters.

I think the purpose of this rule is if someone shows up with a "hot" gun...

Nope. Rule 130.70 is under 130.00-Stage Procedures and (naturally) follows 130.60-Start Position and has to do with addressing the targets. It's the unwritten rule that now allows competitors to "point" the firearm over the berm - unless specifically disallowed by the local venue.

At my club, it is not allowed as we have hunters out the fields in the National Wildlife Refuge that out club is located within. I don't think it's allowed in Orlando (CFRPC) either. What this means is that any competitor (or RO) who is not familiar with local club policy, will not know what the policy is at any given venue unless specifically covered in the RO briefing for the ROs. Competitors will have to find out the rule when/if they are called on it.

Glockrunner · 05-17-2013, 05:25

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Originally Posted by emtjr928

I know. I am just interested for personal enrichment.

JFYI: The IDPA Rulebook is in a rewrite as of now. I believe the new will be out soon enough.

legacy38 · 05-17-2013, 07:27

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Originally Posted by Glockrunner

JFYI: The IDPA Rulebook is in a rewrite as of now. I believe the new will be out soon enough.

The new draft rule book was released on 5/7/13 and is available on the IDPA web page. There is a three week comment period by members where further changes or clarifications will be considered.

The new rules go into effect on 10/1/13.

jab · 05-18-2013, 14:10

but all that matters in the end are the GSSF rules - whatever they may be on a given day.

and that is a true observation!!

Comrade Bork · 05-20-2013, 12:11

When I shoot GSSF, my old I-Shot gun bag is on the table in front of me. It does not bother me to have it there. I shoot from "tucked in". It might be more of an issue if I shot from "ready" but I don't.

The mags I am going to use are on the table beside it.

After a string, I just push the mag button and the (now partial) mag just drops into the bag.

After the last string, I drop the mag, then just rotate the gun, still pointed at the targets, counterclockwise & nearly upside down so the ejection port is now just over the bag, rack the slide, and the chamber round goes right in the bag as well.

Lock open, RO checks it is unloaded, slide down, striker down, then it goes in one of the bag side pockets as well.

Done.

It all happens faster than it took you to read this, the gun never points higher than the targets, and I am ready to clear the table so the next shooter can come up while I go out & witness my targets scored.