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Old 02-01-2013, 11:43   #51
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Oh, he did say that 45ACP+P is OK but no 45 Super. And I doubt, very much, that any kind of warranty came with this replacement. At least, he didn't offer that there was any.
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Old 02-01-2013, 11:49   #52
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You lucked out. Interesting that they gave you a FDE frame since to my knowledge its a Lipsey's exclusive.
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Old 02-01-2013, 11:58   #53
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You lucked out. Interesting that they gave you a FDE frame since to my knowledge its a Lipsey's exclusive.
In his post he said OD but in the photo it does appear FDE,could be the lighting. SJ 40
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You lucked out. Interesting that they gave you a FDE frame since to my knowledge its a Lipsey's exclusive.
Your knowledge is correct. I got an OD frame. I asked if they might have any of the FDE frames and he said that he had never seen any there, so it is completely a Lipsey's thing.

And, it is because of the difference between using a flash and not using one. This happened to me when I first bought the OD 21 and I actually made a post about it in "The 21 Club".

"Flat Dark Earth vs OD, how do you know?"

When I am looking at the gun, in my hand, it is obviously OD but when I take pics of it with a flash it looks brown or tan.
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Old 02-01-2013, 13:27   #55
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Congrats!! I'm a HUGE OD fan!! Own a few myself.... Glad this worked out good for you.
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Check out this excerpt from Wikipedia when I was knee deep in the middle of experimenting with .460 Rowland:

Wikipedia excerpt(5/21/2012):
"Conversion kits co-developed by Wild West Guns and Jonny Rowland for the Smith & Wesson M&P, Glock and Springfield Armory Tactical striker type pistols, due to locking system differences, do not require use of a compensator. Slide velocity in these converted firearms is controlled with a change to the recoil spring alone. Consequently, the converted firearm is lighter and more compact than a converted 1911 type."
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Old 02-01-2013, 13:35   #57
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Congrats!! I'm a HUGE OD fan!! Own a few myself.... Glad this worked out good for you.
Thanks. Even though I paid for it, I am satisfied with the outcome of this debacle.
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Can you take a pic without a flash?
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That level of customer service continues to amaze me!
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No flash

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Fluorescent lighting though.
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Old 02-01-2013, 16:45   #61
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Fluorescent lighting though.
I don't know man...that sure looks like a FDE to me. Glock does make the FDE...it's just an exclusive for Lipsey's. I guess it's possible for the guy you talked to...to have never seen one, but that seems strange to me. Then again you said that you have owned an OD before...so you should know whether it is or not.

Either way you made out like a bandit, congrats.
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All I got for freebies was the ball cap and a sticker that says Glock.
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Old 02-01-2013, 19:23   #65
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I must have missed the complaining part. I just saw someone post honestly what they did and asking if anyone has seen it.
The post IS the complaint. It's like saying, "I put a 800 horsepower V-10 in my Ford Ranger and I blew up the transmission. Has anyone else seen this...?"

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I don't know man...that sure looks like a FDE to me. Glock does make the FDE...it's just an exclusive for Lipsey's. I guess it's possible for the guy you talked to...to have never seen one, but that seems strange to me. Then again you said that you have owned an OD before...so you should know whether it is or not.

Either way you made out like a bandit, congrats.
It's OD.
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Well, this is the internet so the negative response is sorta predictable.

I wouldn't fire it even in ACP mode if it were mine.


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That's certainly a gun/round combo that puts boot-to-arse! I'm glad you got to have some fun with it. I'd say get another G21 just to use with .45ACP, and keep the FDE G21 set-up for the .460 Rowland. That is certainly taking your Glock experience to the "next level".
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Thanks. Even though I paid for it, I am satisfied with the outcome of this debacle.
Here's the $64,000 question, are you going to try the 460 again?
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I believe that if I do it won't be with a Glock slide. I will definitely get an aftermarket slide since they are made to improve the characteristics of the Glock slide. The LWD and Caspian slides advertise their Rockwell hardness, where Glock does not. Although, from what I saw on the Caspian web site, they don't offer a G21 slide.

I'm not going to give up on .460 Rowland. But I am going to be a lot more cautious with how I go about it.

Here's another pic that looks more like OD Green.

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That's certainly a gun/round combo that puts boot-to-arse! I'm glad you got to have some fun with it. I'd say get another G21 just to use with .45ACP, and keep the FDE G21 set-up for the .460 Rowland. That is certainly taking your Glock experience to the "next level".
Funny thing is, I have never shot 460 Rowland with the appropriate compensator. I have only shot it from a 4.75" straight barrel using a Sprinco recoil reducer set up for Rowland and believe me when I tell you brother, it is like "Holy S@#T"! After shooting the 230gr Rowland I shot some 45 ACP - It felt like I was shooting a 9mil.
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Funny thing is, I have never shot 460 Rowland with the appropriate compensator. I have only shot it from a 4.75" straight barrel using a Sprinco recoil reducer set up for Rowland and believe me when I tell you brother, it is like "Holy S@#T"! After shooting the 230gr Rowland I shot some 45 ACP - It felt like I was shooting a 9mil.

Hi Vaquero I just came across your post on my thread that someone left

Glad you made this follow up result on your 460rowland conversion that you did..I am trying to figure out what could have possibly cause the dishing in your slide..Could it have been possibly faulty ammo?Glocks Steel?Or a non compensated barrel?I couldnt figure it out..I contacted one of my buddies that is a gunsmith and i showed him your pics..He says he has never seen that in a glock slide before..he is convinced that it could be a slightly over pressured cartridge above factory 460rowland specs that could have caused this..maybe not so much the compensator..But it is too hard to determine without actually looking at the last set of cartridges that you fired right after you found this fault..I currently have 1300+ 460R rounds fired threw my glock30 and i have no signs of dishing or wobbling..I did also talk to Thomas from 460rowland.com and he said never try to fire the glock conversion without the compensator..If it is done it will overall tear down your glock..I am assuming this could be one of the factors?I have taken a few photos of my slide for your viewing ..I will also keep an eye out after i shoot another 400 through it..Below are the pics

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Thanks Voonman. I am disappointed that the people at Glock did not further discuss the probabilities for the damage, with me. But it will all come out in the wash. I plan on, eventually, getting an LWD slide and starting over. I am still waiting for the 20/21 Timberwolf frames to be offered by LWD and then, I just may build an entire gun from scratch. Anyway, Happy shooting!
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