[wprebeck]

It's fairly obvious that some in this thread have no idea about PTSD and the various forms it can take.


For the record, I'm not an expert, either. But, having worked side by side with a guy who was diagnosed with said disease (after his Hummer was blown up by an IED, and he got some nice head wounds), I can say I would trust him completely on the firing line.

Matter of fact, I did. We've been on the line together more than once. We've also fought people side by side, and he even backed me on a stop I had while working off duty. Yet, some of you believe he shouldn't even have a gun, much less shoot it.

When you get some experience working with vets and PTSD, come back and speak with some authority. Until then, shut up.


Oh, and RP is a ******.

[Zombie Surgeon]

I believe I found the person who hides behind the G19G20 handle:

[G19G20]

Originally Posted by QNman

Just so I'm clear... You think you VOTE your way into protecting your rights... Or do you think you protect your right to free speech by exercising your right to free speech?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_boxes_of_liberty

"There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury and ammo. Please use in that order."

Heard of it?

[certifiedfunds]

Originally Posted by cowboy1964

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013...snipers-death/



Classy, Ron, classy. Neville Chamberlain had nothing on you when it comes to being a pacifist.

Dr. Paul isn't infallible and this comment was not only in poor taste but also poor judgment. It was flat out disrespectful. I'm very disappointed.

[G19G20]

misfire

[QNman]

Originally Posted by G19G20

...Keep reinforcing my opinion that I have more to fear from the "military that protects my rights" (apparently except my right to speak my mind, lest I receive violence in return) than goat herders on the other side of the world.

You have a RIGHT to say whatever you please. But words sometimes have consequences. The government won't prosecute you for saying them. But being disrespectful of a decorated servicemen in the presence of their comrade in arms shortly after their demise will likely lead to an unscheduled emergency room visit.

You still have the RIGHT to speak your mind.

[Glotin]

Originally Posted by G19G20

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_boxes_of_liberty

"There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury and ammo. Please use in that order."

Heard of it?

So you're prepared to fight a foreign military?

Do you think that idiots like you with their "last resort ammo boxes" could have stopped the Japanese in 1941 if we didn't have a forward deployed, standing army? What would the world look like today if the militias you're so fond of had failed to overcome a Japanese invasion (and they most certainly would have failed)?

[QNman]

Originally Posted by G19G20

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_boxes_of_liberty

"There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury and ammo. Please use in that order."

Heard of it?

That will protect you from within... As long as nothing changes. But there's a big old world out there, and I'll wager more than one place out there that wouldn't mind coming over and taking up residence. Which of the four boxes will slow them?

Think bigger than yourself. Think even bigger than our borders.

[wprebeck]

That's what I get for not reading the entire thread.


Screw you and the horse you....well, I'm sure that the horse is already doing something nasty, so never mind.


I never served (one of the ONLY regrets I have know my past..I even did MEPS), but have a history of military service in my family. My grandfather retired from the USN as an E-7. My uncle did, as well, and served as a corpsman in Beruit, which caused him some issues. My mother did 23 years in the USAR as a nurse, and left as an O-4.

Many, many of my coworkers and friends within a multitude of agencies are current or prior service. Many have shed blood in the service of this country. I dare the little pansy waist to talk smack in front of one of them, instead of hiding behinds his keyboard. Better yet, head back to Arlington and go tell that nice Marine fellow guarding the Tomb about your opinions. Be sure and give us a YouTube link.

[ChuteTheMall]

Originally Posted by certifiedfunds

Dr. Paul isn't infallible and this comment was not only in poor taste but also poor judgment. It was flat out disrespectful. I'm very disappointed.

Thanks for posting that.

[QNman]

Originally Posted by Glotin

So you're prepared to fight a foreign military?

Apparently, if we weren't such "bullies", no one would ever consider coming here to take what belongs to us out of sheer decency.

Or, G19G20 could talk them out of it... apparently.

[G19G20]

Originally Posted by Glotin

So you're prepared to fight a foreign military?

If need be, but the way things are going these days I don't think it's a foreign military I have to worry about.

You guys are aware the gov't is trying to disarm you, right? There's only one reason governments do that to their people.

Originally Posted by QNman

That will protect you from within... As long as nothing changes. But there's a big old world out there, and I'll wager more than one place out there that wouldn't mind coming over and taking up residence. Which of the four boxes will slow them?

Think bigger than yourself. Think even bigger than our borders.

See above comment to glotin. No one is going to invade this country militarily for a multitude of reasons. The commies are working on doing that without a hint of violence...so far. This would be a topic for it's own thread though.

[QNman]

Originally Posted by Glotin

So you're prepared to fight a foreign military?

Wait... Other countries have a military?

[wprebeck]

Originally Posted by G19G20

If need be, but the way things are going these days I don't think it's a foreign military I have to worry about.

You guys are aware the gov't is trying to disarm you, right? There's only one reason governments do that to their people.

Because they're liberals? Liberals ALWAYS try to ban guns - it's in their nature. Or, were you even alive in 1994 to see that ban?

[QNman]

Originally Posted by G19G20

See above comment to glotin. No one is going to invade this country militarily for a multitude of reasons. The commies are working on doing that without a hint of violence...so far. This would be a topic for it's own thread though.

No, not a multitude of reasons... Only one reason. Because we would kick their ass. The military does that; not you.

[G19G20]

Originally Posted by wprebeck

Because they're liberals? Liberals ALWAYS try to ban guns - it's in their nature. Or, were you even alive in 1994 to see that ban?

Your point? It's still happening regardless of the who. The WHY is what is important.

[G19G20]

Originally Posted by QNman

No, not a multitude of reasons... Only one reason. Because we would kick their ass. The military does that; not you.

"You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass." - Isoroku Yamamoto, Commander-in-Chief of the Imperial Japanese Navy

He wasn't talking about the military. He was talking about you and me QN.

[QNman]

Originally Posted by G19G20

"You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass." - Isoroku Yamamoto, Commander-in-Chief of the Imperial Japanese Navy

He wasn't talking about the military. He was talking about you and me QN.

Yamamoto was a wise man. Not all dictators are.

Me, I'd fight to repel all invaders to my dying breath. But I'm not delusional enough to think that with modern weaponry as it is, you and I would hold up very long.

[G19G20]

Thread got way off track here so Ill just say that the tweet could have been worded better and less "direct", but it still contains truth. I will always come down on the side of the truth before I worry about someone's feelings.

Till next time....

[GAFinch]

In the aftermath of Ron Paul’s despicable tweet today slamming US Navy SEAL sniper Chris Kyle, murdered on Saturday while helping a fellow soldier learn to cope with post traumatic stress syndrome, Paul’s son, Senator Rand Paul (R-KY) has told Breitbart News exclusively, “Chris Kyle was a hero like all Americans who don the uniform to defend our country. Our prayers are with his family during this tragic time.”

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...ponds-Ron-Paul

[Zombie Surgeon]

Originally Posted by G19G20

"You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass." - Isoroku Yamamoto, Commander-in-Chief of the Imperial Japanese Navy

He wasn't talking about the military. He was talking about you and me QN.

The last person I would like to watch my six would be a spineless despicable cowardly piece of dog excrement like you.

[ChuteTheMall]

Originally Posted by GAFinch

In the aftermath of Ron Paul’s despicable tweet today slamming US Navy SEAL sniper Chris Kyle, murdered on Saturday while helping a fellow soldier learn to cope with post traumatic stress syndrome, Paul’s son, Senator Rand Paul (R-KY) has told Breitbart News exclusively, “Chris Kyle was a hero like all Americans who don the uniform to defend our country. Our prayers are with his family during this tragic time.”

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...ponds-Ron-Paul

Prayers?

Does he mean prayers to God, or is it just an expression?

What would our Ronulan atheist troll say to that?

[Snowman92D]

Originally Posted by G19G20

"You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass." - Isoroku Yamamoto, Commander-in-Chief of the Imperial Japanese Navy

He wasn't talking about the military. He was talking about you and me QN.

Yamamoto never said that, of course.

http://www.factcheck.org/2009/05/misquoting-yamamoto/

Another instance of you not checking your facts before trying to spin your BS. That might work when you're hustling bimbos when your wife ain't around, but it doesn't fly here.

[chickenwing]

Originally Posted by Zombie Surgeon

The KGB and the SS recruited their torturers and executioners from people who were true believers in the infallibility of their leaders - Stalin and Hitler.
They were individuals who kissed their wives and kids every morning then went to work, put rubber gloves and rubber aprons over their uniforms then started to pull finger nails, insert needles into eyeballs and shoot people in the back of their heads.
They were doing all that with a clear conscience and no regrets because they all believed the Dear Leader or Der Fuhrer was infallible and his cause righteous.
This guy is cut from the same cloth, a true believer. I have no doubt in my mind that if Ron Paul would ask this guy to murder somebody he wouldn't hesitate a single second.

Ah, thanks for clearing that up. Ron is the offspring of Hitler and Stalin. Because of a tweet declaring a warrior for the government died by the hands of another government employee, who was f'ed up because the government sent him to the sandbox. He is now comparable to Hitler and Stalin?

So, by your logic(if it exists) questioning the authority of the State to commit constant warfare, is going to turn this country into a Russian gulag or Nazi death camp? And give Ron Paul the super hybrid Nazi/Russian army he needs to enact limited government?
And wow, posters agree with you.



I'm not necessarily on G19G20's side. But what you said is nonsense. You are saying Ron Paul would ask him to kill somebody?

That is a serious accusation. Any proof or evidence?

[Zombie Surgeon]

Originally Posted by chickenwing

Ah, thanks for clearing that up. Ron is the offspring of Hitler and Stalin. Because of a tweet declaring a warrior for the government died by the hands of another government employee, who was f'ed up because the government sent him to the sandbox. He is now comparable to Hitler and Stalin?

So, by your logic(if it exists) questioning the authority of the State to commit constant warfare, is going to turn this country into a Russian gulag or Nazi death camp? And give Ron Paul the super hybrid Nazi/Russian army he needs to enact limited government?
And wow, posters agree with you.



I'm not necessarily on G19G20's side. But what you said is nonsense. You are saying Ron Paul would ask him to kill somebody?

That is a serious accusation. Any proof or evidence?

You missed the point by approximately 3.5 miles.
Read my post again tomorrow morning after you wake up and before you hit the bottle again.