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02-01-2013, 16:44
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Originally Posted by Sheepdog689
Probably not enough room in the case for the extra powder. I reload my practice rounds and I'm using 7 grains of Unique. It fills the case up to just about the bottom of where the bullet finally seats. If there's a higher powered powder that doesn't have the volume of Unique then they may be able to do it.
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Sounds like a job for Bullseye!
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02-01-2013, 16:48
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Originally Posted by Sheepdog689
Probably not enough room in the case for the extra powder. I reload my practice rounds and I'm using 7 grains of Unique. It fills the case up to just about the bottom of where the bullet finally seats. If there's a higher powered powder that doesn't have the volume of Unique then they may be able to do it.
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Maybe something like the old Winchester 630 or maybe even the AA powders.
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02-01-2013, 16:56
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Originally Posted by Sheepdog689
Probably not enough room in the case for the extra powder. I reload my practice rounds and I'm using 7 grains of Unique. It fills the case up to just about the bottom of where the bullet finally seats. If there's a higher powered powder that doesn't have the volume of Unique then they may be able to do it.
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WSF is just a tiny bit slower than Unique & slightly less bulky. At 7gr, you would get abotu 25% less volume & slightly less vel. So you can go a bit higher owder charge w/o much compression. AA#7 is slower still as is HS6, but you have to start adding quite a bit more powder, so it's a balancing act.
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Last edited by fredj338; 02-01-2013 at 16:57..
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02-01-2013, 17:00
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Originally Posted by fredj338
WSF is just a tiny bit slower than Unique & slightly less bulky. At 7gr, you would get abotu 25% less volume & slightly less vel. So you can go a bit higher owder charge w/o much compression. AA#7 is slower still as is HS6, but you have to start adding quite a bit more powder, so it's a balancing act.
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I forgot about my old friend WSF. I've been using it since it was introduced.
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02-01-2013, 17:09
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Originally Posted by SCmasterblaster
Maybe something like the old Winchester 630 or maybe even the AA powders.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fredj338
WSF is just a tiny bit slower than Unique & slightly less bulky. At 7gr, you would get abotu 25% less volume & slightly less vel. So you can go a bit higher owder charge w/o much compression. AA#7 is slower still as is HS6, but you have to start adding quite a bit more powder, so it's a balancing act.
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I forgot about my old friend WSF. I've been using it since it was introduced.
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Originally Posted by M 7
Sounds like a job for Bullseye!
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Hmmmmm, i may need to look at some other powders! I did buy a couple of containers of Power Pistol but I haven't tried it yet. I've been reloading with 185gr Berry's RN hollow base bullets.
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02-01-2013, 17:57
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Originally Posted by Sheepdog689
Hmmmmm, i may need to look at some other powders! I did buy a couple of containers of Power Pistol but I haven't tried it yet. I've been reloading with 185gr Berry's RN hollow base bullets.
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I am a current and happy user of APP. Great powder.
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02-04-2013, 15:46
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The Glock 39 is my favorite .45 caliber sub-compact pistol. Very accurate and reliable. Many G.A.P. owners are LEO's who are issued them. Everyone is happy with them. The feedback is positive. Nothing wrong with the G.A.P.
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02-04-2013, 16:30
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Originally Posted by hunter won
The Glock 39 is my favorite .45 caliber sub-compact pistol. Very accurate and reliable. Many G.A.P. owners are LEO's who are issued them. Everyone is happy with them. The feedback is positive. Nothing wrong with the G.A.P.
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Wrong! There is something wrong with the GAP....I can't find a model 39 to buy!!!!! Went to my local Glock blue label dealer and he has no idea when he can get one. 
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02-04-2013, 20:09
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Originally Posted by Sheepdog689
Wrong! There is something wrong with the GAP....I can't find a model 39 to buy!!!!! Went to my local Glock blue label dealer and he has no idea when he can get one. |
Sheepdog, check gunbroker. There are some there.
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02-05-2013, 14:07
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Originally Posted by SCmasterblaster
That makes sense. I guess that there is not likely to be a 230gr .45 GAP round then - the OAL would be too long.
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I've been working up a 230gn HP load for 45 GAP for a couple weeks, now. Take a look over in BullDawgs forum.
Whatever powder I use, the charge has been about 90% of the ACP load.
And Last but not Least.....
38 is twice the gun a 19 is!
Do the math!
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02-06-2013, 15:13
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Originally Posted by ADK_40GLKr
I've been working up a 230gn HP load for 45 GAP for a couple weeks, now. Take a look over in BullDawgs forum.
Whatever powder I use, the charge has been about 90% of the ACP load.
And Last but not Least.....
38 is twice the gun a 19 is!
Do the math!
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I overlooked the deep seating of the 230gr bullet in the .45 GAP.
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02-06-2013, 15:39
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.45 GAP is dumb. No ability to go with +P pressures. .45 ACP wins.
Just my opinion and opinions are not debatable. Sorry.
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02-06-2013, 15:43
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Originally Posted by WinterWizard
.45 GAP is dumb. No ability to go with +P pressures. .45 ACP wins.
Just my opinion and opinions are not debatable. Sorry.
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Got to admire a person who knows what he wants, wants what he wants, and doesn't want to be questioned about what he wants.
Even if +P was not the ammo that went to two World Wars, Korea and Vietnam.
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02-06-2013, 20:12
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The 45 GAP and the Glock 39 is the gun I would carry in a retail work space....like a jewelry store. The Doubletap 165gr Barnes TAC-XP is the round I would carry. Like WinterWizard said. It is not debatable. 
I think it is a brillant round. 3 shot, 3 yards, 3 seconds
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02-06-2013, 21:59
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I've owned a G38 & G39 and they are great guns. However, for me personally I feel better armed with something that holds more rounds for todays more "elastic" scenarios.
FWIW, the best powders to reload the GAP are Ramshot True Blue & VV N310.
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02-07-2013, 13:07
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TF - With a 7 round legal limit in any NY mag, my G38 has all the firepower the state allows. ( I just have to be careful I don't get caught before racking that 8th round into the chamber! :-) OOOPS, felonious activity!)
I know, administrative reload, THEN insert a mag with 7 rounds. 
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Last edited by ADK_40GLKr; 02-07-2013 at 13:10..
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02-08-2013, 07:42
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Originally Posted by ADK_40GLKr
TF - With a 7 round legal limit in any NY mag, my G38 has all the firepower the state allows. ( I just have to be careful I don't get caught before racking that 8th round into the chamber! :-) OOOPS, felonious activity!)
I know, administrative reload, THEN insert a mag with 7 rounds. |
I will have to avoid NY in the future.
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