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Old 02-07-2013, 14:07   #41
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TF - With a 7 round legal limit in any NY mag, my G38 has all the firepower the state allows. ( I just have to be careful I don't get caught before racking that 8th round into the chamber! :-) OOOPS, felonious activity!)

I know, administrative reload, THEN insert a mag with 7 rounds.
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Old 02-08-2013, 08:42   #42
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TF - With a 7 round legal limit in any NY mag, my G38 has all the firepower the state allows. ( I just have to be careful I don't get caught before racking that 8th round into the chamber! :-) OOOPS, felonious activity!)

I know, administrative reload, THEN insert a mag with 7 rounds.
I will have to avoid NY in the future.
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Old 01-17-2015, 10:37   #43
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I guess that some folks just don't understand WHY the .45 GAP caliber & Glock 37 combination was originally conceived & introduced. It was produced to allow L/E agencies to issue a duty pistol in the same relative size as the G17 / G22 series, BUT with the "relative" power of the .45 ACP. ( I say relative, because the .45 GAP runs on par with a standard velocity, non +P .45 ACP, but the GAP's pressure levels equate to a .45 ACP+P. )
So, in a nutshell, it works out like this; An agency wishing to standardize on .45 caliber for duty use, can now do so without a great many of the complaints from their rank & file regarding a too large / too thick grip frame issue weapon. lF the agency and or end user doesn't have an issue with the weapon's frame size, then the .45 GAP caliber makes no sense at all, just go with one of .45 ACP Glock models & never look back. BUT, as we noted, time & time again, the current crop law enforcement applicants tend to come in all shapes & sizes, with all types of hand sizes. If we can just remember why the GAP was initially created, perhaps we will see it for what is was intended to be.

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Old 01-17-2015, 11:30   #44
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Very good thread. Civility in discussing these 2 .45's Propose for sticky.
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Old 01-17-2015, 12:13   #45
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Pastore, Thanks for the refresher for the folks who seem to forget the posts they read more than 12 months in the past.
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Old 01-17-2015, 14:36   #46
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THANK YOU Gentlemen for your very kind comments, they are much appreciated. I have always had trouble understanding why some people just couldn't accept the .45 GAP for what it was, & still is, a viable alternative to a specific problem. The key to the whole GAP question is the word "specific", as in pertaining to a specific issue. The issue in question was; "How can we find a duty pistol that will fire a .45 caliber projectile, with ballistics similar to the .45 ACP, but housed in platform that will carry a decent number of rounds, contained within a pistol that the "average" sized person will find comfortable". Well, I may be somewhat biased, but I think the .45 GAP & Glock 37, 38, & 39 models solved that issue just fine !! Personally, I just love my G38. I do kind of wish it had the slim .45 slide, as in the new G30S, but it is what it is. Now, if Glock would just come out with a Practical / Tactical model in .45 GAP, with the slim G30S type slide, that would be a dream come true.

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Old 01-24-2015, 18:36   #47
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Glock will most likely develop a 30s slide for the G.A.P. since the company is looking at keeping people interested in that caliber.
The G39 is a great sub compact pistol. I have no problem finding ammo, wish more companies would make the .45 G.A.P.
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Old 01-24-2015, 20:34   #48
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Glock will most likely develop a 30s slide for the G.A.P. since the company is looking at keeping people interested in that caliber.
The G39 is a great sub compact pistol. I have no problem finding ammo, wish more companies would make the .45 G.A.P.
Yeah, they just don't want to let it rest in piece.

Nobody will ever make another GAP pistol other than Glock, in my opinion. Springfield and Para both did and they dropped them quickly. Its a failed campaign.
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Old 01-25-2015, 08:55   #49
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.45 GAP is stupid. If you can't handle a .45 ACP size frame, then you can't handle a .45 anyways. Low capacity, hard to find, and expensive ammo. Glocks ego is so big they had to have their own caliber. Solving a problem that didn't exist. Plus, if you really want a little more power in a 9mm size gun, they invented the .40 for that 25 years ago. The GAP will never catch on.
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