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02-07-2013, 11:19
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PersonaNonGrata
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Originally Posted by aspartz
From the report:
So blacks are not even TRYING to find work at the same rate as other groups...
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Careful with your cause and effect. You could just as easily say that they aren't being HIRED at the same rate as other groups, but without correlation, it doesn't make it true.
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02-07-2013, 12:07
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If you didn't care about the black unemployment rate before BO don't act like you care about it now.
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02-07-2013, 12:11
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Originally Posted by GWSHARK
If you didn't care about the black unemployment rate before BO don't act like you care about it now. 
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I think you have misunderstood...everybody. I don't see anybody crying about it - I see people saying "here's the reason for it and it's the fault of black people, liberals and "black community leaders" like BO.
the people posting on the thread didn't write the article or decide it was time to print it.
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02-07-2013, 12:39
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BITEYAHEADOFF
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Originally Posted by jeanderson
The blacks are stupid. Sorry, but that's just a fact. The Democrats have had them in their back pocket for decades as reliable voters (95% last election). They're promised everything but nothing ever changes for them.
If they could think independently and starting looking at themselves as people and not BLACK people, maybe they could be successful and pull themselves out of their rut.
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Some of us are doing quite decent. Thanks for asking.
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02-07-2013, 12:42
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GWSHARK
If you didn't care about the black unemployment rate before BO don't act like you care about it now. 
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I still don't.
I'm only concerned about the unemployment rate as a whole. I couldn't care less how one ethnicity is doing. If the unemployment rate as a whole is good, then those who want to work are working anyway, regardless of race.
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02-07-2013, 15:10
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Well the current administration is making leaps and bounds towards achieving racial equality in this area, because, pretty soon unemployment for non-minorities will catch up with unemployment for minorities.
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02-07-2013, 15:34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bullwinkle J Moose
Well the current administration is making leaps and bounds towards achieving racial equality in this area, because, pretty soon unemployment for non-minorities will catch up with unemployment for minorities.

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And we have a winner!
It is in that very statement we can ascertain the true goal of the Obama administration.
Meanwhile, for those interested, here are a couple of factors which need contemplation:
1) How well do black children do in school?
2) How well are black families structured?
3) How many black kids have responsible, working adults within the families to use as role models?
4) What are the incentives for black kids to work hard and excel?
And, finally, what is the overall black communities' views on authority?
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02-07-2013, 19:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ScubaSven
Careful with your cause and effect. You could just as easily say that they aren't being HIRED at the same rate as other groups, but without correlation, it doesn't make it true.
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The "workforce" includes those who are actively looking for a job.
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02-08-2013, 06:35
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GWSHARK
If you didn't care about the black unemployment rate before BO don't act like you care about it now. 
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" the best thing white folks can do to help black folks is to mind their own business.' b.t. washington.
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02-08-2013, 06:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GWSHARK
Some of us are doing quite decent. Thanks for asking.
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To say that a stereotype doesn't apply to all, doesn't invalidate the stereotype. We all know that no stereotype applies to every individual, it is just a generalization based on observations of a trait that is significantly common to a group.
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02-08-2013, 10:17
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Originally Posted by Bren
And the guy driving the biggest backhoe has been elected president by the people in the hole...twice.
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Um, Bren, I think the sticky says she's off limits...
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02-08-2013, 11:29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by snerd
Black community still suffering from ‘disproportionately high unemployment
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Bush's fault.
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02-08-2013, 11:40
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Sorry, I'm still not seeing the "suffering" part? Many seem quite happy
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02-08-2013, 11:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by countrygun
Sorry, I'm still not seeing the "suffering" part? Many seem quite happy 
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02-08-2013, 12:53
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If some of you would reasearch the patents held by black individuals some of your eyes would probably pop out of your heads for items that you use everyday. I know several blacks and one in particular with seven hundred grand in the bank and no it is not related to illegal drugs but it is related to working hard and saving and investing wisely. Some of these blacks I am referring to shop at Wal-Mart and you probably stand in line with them when and if you shop there so keep on making your assumptions and I can imagine some of them laugh  when people assume they are on public assistance and asking for a hand out as some of the media and you suggest.
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02-08-2013, 12:59
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I know a guy with seven Snickers, but he doesn't keep 'em in a bank.
Why would ANYbody want to "reasearch the patents held by black individuals"? That's just silly. How would you even do that? Are patents filed by race?
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02-08-2013, 13:07
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Originally Posted by gwalchmai
Um, Bren, I think the sticky says she's off limits...
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Thanks, just shot Diet Coke through my nose.
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02-08-2013, 13:09
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Well, since unemployment for blacks was that high before the last election, and around 95 per cent still voted for Obama, I'd say they don't really have much of a complaint.
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02-08-2013, 13:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigpoppie50
If some of you would reasearch the patents held by black individuals some of your eyes would probably pop out of your heads for items that you use everyday. I know several blacks and one in particular with seven hundred grand in the bank and no it is not related to illegal drugs but it is related to working hard and saving and investing wisely. Some of these blacks I am referring to shop at Wal-Mart and you probably stand in line with them when and if you shop there so keep on making your assumptions and I can imagine some of them laugh  when people assume they are on public assistance and asking for a hand out as some of the media and you suggest.
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OF course we know about George Washington Carver, we are not as ignorant s you would like to believe. Quite in fact I have been working on an historical article about an escaped slave who was instrumental in the development of our community here on the west coast.
We do not fit your "stereotype", the folks here are just quoting the facts and the numbers as they stand. I don't recall anyone here saying that there re no successful blacks or anyone who resents them or would denigrate their success.
When you have such a strong pattern of behavior that is identified so obviously, to ignore it, would be racist in its own right.
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02-08-2013, 14:28
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Yes. That's why the poverty level and median household income is so good in rural Mississippi (the most Whitest and Republican place on the planet).
As if white politicians aren't taking advantage of their white constituents ?? As if white people aren't unemployed ?? As if white voters haven't been voting 'all-white' since the founding framers.
Wake TFU and then Shut TFU and then fix your own racist political party.
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02-08-2013, 14:38
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So, Professor Carver's two dinner guests...Edward "Skippy" Williamson and Frederick "Jif" Armstrong - two white men - stole George Washington Carver's recipe for peanut butter, copyrighted it, and reaped untold fortunes from it. While Dr. Carver died penniless and insane, still trying to play a phonograph record with a peanut.
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02-08-2013, 14:48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Trew2Life
Yes. That's why the poverty level and median household income is so good in rural Mississippi (the most Whitest and Republican place on the planet).
As if white politicians aren't taking advantage of their white constituents ?? As if white people aren't unemployed ?? As if white voters haven't been voting 'all-white' since the founding framers.
Wake TFU and then Shut TFU and then fix your own racist political party.
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I think the issue is not one particular geographic area but rather the nation as a whole.
I think that if you look at the situation of the US as a whole, it becomes quite evident that the "bell curve" is not racist, it is a simple fact.
That said, individuals must be treated as individuals, not as a member of a group.
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02-08-2013, 16:35
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If one watches Hannity tonight he will see and hear a brilliant pediatric neurosurgeon who happens to be a black gentleman of distinction.
Check it out.
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02-08-2013, 16:41
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Skyhook
If one watches Hannity tonight he will see and hear a brilliant pediatric neurosurgeon who happens to be a black gentleman of distinction.
Check it out.
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Thanks for the heads up, 'Hook -- I trust you're talking about Dr. Benjamin Carson.
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02-08-2013, 16:42
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Skyhook
If one watches Hannity tonight he will see and hear a brilliant pediatric neurosurgeon who happens to be a black gentleman of distinction.
Check it out.
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Dr. Benjamin Carson
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