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Old 02-04-2013, 21:05   #1
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Travel through NY with High Capacity Mags

How are the new laws going to affect TRAVEL through NY if you are carrying High Cap Mags? Drive through 1-2 times per year (NC to Me.) If you have links that would be most appreciated.
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Old 02-05-2013, 05:10   #2
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Here is the answer..even law abiding NON RESIDENTS cannot carry or transport through the state it appears..what a friggin load of B.S, !!





C. Reciprocal Carry

By statute, New York will not recognize another state’s license to carry, however one may transport a firearm in the state pursuant to:
“Sections 265.01, 265.02, 265.03, 265.04, 265.05, 265.10, 265.11, 265.12, 265.13, 265.15 and 270.05 shall not apply to: …. Possession of pistols and revolvers by a person who is a nonresident of this state while attending or traveling to or from, an organized competitive pistol match or league competition under auspices of, or approved by, the National Rifle Association and in which he is a competitor, within forty-eight hours of such event or by a person who is a non-resident of the state while attending or traveling to or from an organized match sanctioned by the International Handgun Metallic Silhouette Association and in which he is a competitor, within forty-eight hours of such event, provided that he has not been previously convicted of a felony or a crime which, if committed in New York, would constitute a felony, and further provided that the pistols or revolvers are transported unloaded in a locked opaque container together with a copy of the match program, match schedule or match registration card. Such documentation shall constitute prima facie evidence of exemption, providing that such person also has in his possession a pistol license or firearms registration card issued in accordance with the laws of his place of residence.”
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Old 02-05-2013, 05:45   #3
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Here is the answer..even law abiding NON RESIDENTS cannot carry or transport through the state it appears..what a friggin load of B.S, !!
Np, you can transport THOUGH any state, as long as you aren't staying in NY.

Guide To The Interstate Transportation Of Firearms

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Notwithstanding any other provision of any law or any rule or regulation of a State or any political subdivision thereof, any person who is not otherwise prohibited by this chapter from transporting, shipping, or receiving a firearm shall be entitled to transport a firearm for any lawful purpose from any place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm to any other place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm if, during such transportation the firearm is unloaded, and neither the firearm nor any ammunition being transported is readily accessible or is directly accessible from the passenger compartment of such transporting vehicle: Provided, That in the case of a vehicle without a compartment separate from the driver’s compartment the firearm or ammunition shall be contained in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console.
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Old 02-05-2013, 11:32   #4
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How are the new laws going to affect TRAVEL through NY if you are carrying High Cap Mags? Drive through 1-2 times per year (NC to Me.) If you have links that would be most appreciated.
This won't answer ALL your questions, but may be a start:
http://www.governor.ny.gov/2013/gun-reforms-faq

Keep your mags empty and locked separately from weapons and both secured in trunk. Stay far away from NY City and don't stop while passing through. Do not carry. Do not inform. Don't get stopped. I think it would be wise if the mags had ten or less capacity as that limit is not new.

Fed Law only gives you a defense if you are prosecuted for illegal possession, it doesn't keep them from arresting you.
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Old 02-05-2013, 11:36   #5
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Prior to 1/15/13, you could have preban mags made prior to 9/13/94, but now that has been trashed thanks to Gov. Homo.
Keep a very low profile, don't speed, fill up with gas before you enter NYS and keep going.
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Old 02-05-2013, 15:51   #6
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How are the new laws going to affect TRAVEL through NY if you are carrying High Cap Mags? Drive through 1-2 times per year (NC to Me.) If you have links that would be most appreciated.
You should mail the magazines to yourself from NC to where you are staying in ME. When leaving, mail them back. (I'm being serious and not joking)

It might seem like a hassle but I have a bad feeling you would get a huge hassle, if not arrested, if pulled over in NY state for a traffic stop and searched.

I think that way you are 100% safe!
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Old 02-06-2013, 08:28   #7
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DevilDoc,

Do you travel through NJ? NJ has a High-cap mag restriction as well... has for years. From: http://www.nraila.org/gun-laws/state...ew-jersey.aspx
"It is unlawful to manufacture, transport, ship, sell, or dispose of a large capacity magazine. A large capacity magazine is considered a box, drum, tube, or other container, which is capable of holding more than fifteen (15) rounds of ammunition to be fed continuously and directly into a semi-automatic firearm."

Also, transporting through is probably ok, but be aware:
"It is unlawful to knowingly possess “any hollow nose, dum-dum, or body armor penetrating bullet.” A person may keep such ammunition at his dwelling, premises, or other land owned or possessed by him, or carry such ammunition from the place of purchase to said dwelling or land. "

Yup, I don't go to New England any more. Skiing is better out West anyway.
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Old 02-06-2013, 10:18   #8
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We usually avoid Jersey due to the traffic, and well, its Jersey...Mass. has funky laws ( Thank you Gov, Romney) , but trying to read through them it says you can transport if you are a non resident, but all the onloading and locking up needs to be done. Cripes, the whole north eastern seaboard is becoming a no no land for us honest shooters. I probably will say screw'em all, put it all in a discreet lockable area in the car and just pass on through.
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Old 02-06-2013, 10:24   #9
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I worry about this when I go back to visit NH from Michigan. I drive across the state west to east and it is not possible to do so on one tank safely so I have to stop at least once for gas and to take a leak usually. Just careful about speed and leave it at that. I've considered driving through PA instead and cutting north through eastern NY to limit my time in the state but then I cut through the area around NYC which will be ultra liberal, I'd almost rather take my chances upstate where the trooper is liable to be more reasonable.


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Old 02-06-2013, 10:30   #10
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You should mail the magazines to yourself from NC to where you are staying in ME. When leaving, mail them back. (I'm being serious and not joking)

It might seem like a hassle but I have a bad feeling you would get a huge hassle, if not arrested, if pulled over in NY state for a traffic stop and searched.

I think that way you are 100% safe!
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This! I just received a repaired 22 pistol in the mail in one of those US Post Office "if it fits, it ships" boxes.
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Pretty confusing stuff, Federal laws say you can , state laws say you can't. Need a good lawyer to figure this one out ,LOL...
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You can travel through, but if you are caught they will string you up without a good lawyer.

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Old 02-06-2013, 14:49   #13
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How many think the " Bad Guys" are worried about the laws ?? Sorry, 21 years in the service, Top Secret Clearance, have had full background checks for Merchant Mariner Documents and Concealed Weapons checks, still get treated like potential criminal...something is not " kosher".
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Old 02-07-2013, 10:13   #14
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Don't speed, follow all traffic laws. Remember that there is no right on red in any of the 5 boroughs of NYC - in fact, avoid NYC altogether if possible.

There is no shall-notify law in NY making you notify officers of firearms in the vehicle - so don't say a word unless asked.
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Old 02-07-2013, 18:22   #15
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I was wondering if I would have any issues driving through Texas with a high cap mag? Lol.......imagine if someone asked that.......horse cock I say
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Old 02-08-2013, 00:28   #16
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If you are worried then just disassemble your mags and separate the pieces into if different bags, of course you need to unload the ammo and store that separately as well
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Old 02-08-2013, 00:31   #17
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i thought the safe passage act covered this?
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Old 02-10-2013, 02:45   #18
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Found this on the NRAILA.org gun laws site. The short of it is, "The possession or transport of any other “assault weapon” or “high capacity” magazine is a felony.
The long version:
"NEW YORK—Caution: New York state’s general approach is to make the possession of handguns and so-called “assault weapons” and “large capacity ammunition feeding devices” illegal and then provide exceptions that the accused may raise as “affirmative defenses” to prosecution. The only exceptions to the “assault weapons” and “large capacity” magazine bans are provisions which allow possession of otherwise banned items manufactured on or before September 13, 1994, or ammunition feeding devices “capable of operating only with .22 caliber rimfire ammunition.” The possession or transport of any other “assault weapon” or “high capacity” magazine is a felony. The prohibited ammunition feeding devices include not just magazines that have a capacity of more than 10 rounds but those “that can be readily restored or converted to accept more than 10 rounds.”"
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Old 02-11-2013, 20:28   #19
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I live in upstate ny and nobody knows what the hell is going on with King Cuomos new decrees. Thats why I went out and got my glock 37 with 3 10 round mags. I got mine. Most dealers are out of stock and suppliers wont ship new merchandise until the dust settles. NY is worse than california now. Gonna retire to texas. I like the idea of secession.
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Just gives me another reason not to ever visit NY,,,I will just fly and pack my guns via the Airlines as allowed per federal law,,now for the question, if they transfer my baggage at a NY airport, will the locals have any jurisdiction or is that all federal??
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