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Old 02-13-2013, 16:14   #501
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Then you're in luck. They guy didn't die in LAPD jurisdiction. The death is being investigated by the San Bernardino County Sheriff.

Do you people not even realize it wasn't LAPD handling the cabin barricade situation? It was the San Bernardino Sheriff's Department and California Fish & Game.
I'm not sure at this time if we know who was in charge of the standoff.

Do you have it on good authority or can point to the information ?
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Old 02-13-2013, 16:15   #502
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We haven't been talking about the investigation of his death, Bren.

We've been talking about the investigation of his firing.

That's the only question left unanswered, and it seems that some don't like it when it gets asked.
How can you say it hasn't been answered, it went all the way to the state Supreme Court, did it not? How many answers do you need?

FFS what is with society and conspiracy theories..
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Old 02-13-2013, 16:20   #503
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We haven't been talking about the investigation of his death, Bren.

We've been talking about the investigation of his firing.

That's the only question left unanswered, and it seems that some don't like it when it gets asked.
What exactly are you implying?

That IF it is determined that he was wrongfully terminated, that his killing/shooting spree was justified??

What would be the point of re-investigating his termination? He was a POS, that's all that matters.

Even if he was wrongfully terminated, gunning people down is NOT how a person should attempt to clear their name. This isn't the movies...

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Old 02-13-2013, 16:24   #504
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Well, we'll just have to wait and see if we ever hear any more about his case. If it just gets deep-sixed quickly, we'll know that opening it was a sham.

If there's a credible investigation by an outside and unbiased entity, then the LAPD will gain some credibility.

I don't know anything about Dorner except that he apparently snapped......the interesting part is the WHY of it.
Why he snapped is basically of no importance. Life is rough, get a helmet. There is no justification for his actions period. A well balanced individual does not react to disappointment or even mistreatment by killing innocent people, some could even argue by killing the guilty. He snapped because he was defective. He had history of failure LAPD, Navy, over half of his "plans" failed. Stealing the boat, breaking the axel on his truck, which probably in anger, he set fire to telegraphing his location. He crafted his own demise. He failed himself into a conflagration. That does not automatically give credence to his demented manifesto.
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I remember this from the academy when the instructor was talking about using deadly force and he gave a scenario where we were justified in shooting the guy. The whole class agreed that we could use our sidearms in that situation.

Then he goes, how about your gun jams or whatever, and you take out your folding knife and stab the guy a few times? Some people were hesitant and said probably not. The instructor said why not? If you are authorized for deadly force, it doesn't matter what deadly force you use.

Deadly force is deadly force. Might not be pretty and might not be what you think or what most people find acceptable, but it doesn't matter under the law. There's nothing that says you have to use one type of deadly force over another if it is called for.
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Old 02-13-2013, 16:33   #506
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Old 02-13-2013, 16:35   #507
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I am talking process and others are talking emotion.

It is the reason I am constantly in the middle on GT. The cop haters think the cops are always wrong. The cop lovers always think the cops are right.

I believe in that the system works most of the time, WHEN the system is used.
What of the person who refuses to play within your system?
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Old 02-13-2013, 16:37   #508
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But not for the actions of Dorner, Dorner would still be alive.
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Old 02-13-2013, 16:38   #509
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And you are?

LOL!

If you don't like my questions, get lost.
You're new here TBO is not. Try reading more and posting less. You just might learn something.
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It's a fair question.

They'd have some credibility if they opened it to an outside investigation......an impartial one.

ACLU? NLRB?
As far as I'm concerned, a new investigation will accomplish nothing.

Dorner decided to kill others. He's dead now, as it should be.
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Are you telling me that a suspect that previously was alleged to have used deadly force becomes a justified target for deadly force by police absent an immediate threat to those police? In other words, even if the suspect isn't at that moment a threat (as in pointing a gun at YOU) that you can still kill him?
It doesn't matter who the gun is pointed at. If he shoots someone and then quickly points the gun at the ground only to quickly raise it and shoot someone else he's suddenly not off limits in between. He was in an active shootout, firing full auto out of the cabin. It was an active situation and he was an active participant. They weren't employing deadly force based on someone killed a week before or even an hour before. He could have called it off at any point, even after the fire started.
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We haven't been talking about the investigation of his death, Bren.

We've been talking about the investigation of his firing.

That's the only question left unanswered, and it seems that some don't like it when it gets asked.


Because that would tell us how justified he was in murdering people

You REALLY gotta be kidding. WTF??

BTW, get lost, troll.
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And you are?

LOL!

If you don't like my questions, get lost.
No, how about YOU get lost. Additionally, take a good year to find yourself, and don't bother to report back your findings.
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Old 02-13-2013, 17:32   #514
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No, how about YOU get lost. Additionally, take a good year to find yourself, and don't bother to report back your findings.
I was going to suggest he "Find himself" by taking a long walk...........on a short pier.
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On the health news front , it is reported that Chris Dorner quit smoking today .
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On the health news front , it is reported that Chris Dorner quit smoking today .
Yea, he found out that smoking kills.
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That was rather insensitive after I read it back . But you know what they say , once it is on internet , it's there forever LOL ...
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It's a fair question.

They'd have some credibility if they opened it to an outside investigation......an impartial one.

ACLU? NLRB?


You're funny! And clearly biased.

Bear in mind that this is a discussion about the hunt for a COP killer.... How the &^%$ do you find it appropriate to stick your nose in this discussion to make self-righteous accusations; accusations that are old, tired and worn-out.

The LEOs who were murdered by this POS in CA are our BROTHERS you flaming idiot.

You have no shame. Man up and show an ounce of respect and keep your opinions out of this thread.
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