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Old 02-19-2013, 07:14   #151
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"And the government after them might feel the same way about you. "Killing everyone I disagree with" isn't a political philosophy, it's called being a homicidal maniac."


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Who said anything about killing people they disagree with?

Someone said something about killing commies and socialists. Dead commies save lives.
Some of our more liberal, agenda-driven friends love the art of misquoting and inserting words like 'all', 'every' to make a point. Nice old radical, fanatical technique.
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Old 02-19-2013, 11:27   #152
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You know, the "Ghandi VS Stalin" type graphs are amusing because, in several cases, they leave out a factor that is more important than what they represent.

They show various leaders as we know them to be after they were elected/assumed power/staged a junta, what ever means.

What the graphs should show, to have relevance to politics, is what they PROMISED the people BEFORE they assumed power. Knowing what they did after obtaining power is somewhat less important than understanding what the people THOUGHT they were getting.
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Old 02-19-2013, 11:31   #153
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You know, the "Ghandi VS Stalin" type graphs are amusing because, in several cases, they leave out a factor that is more important than what they represent.

They show various leaders as we know them to be after they were elected/assumed power/staged a junta, what ever means.

What the graphs should show, to have relevance to politics, is what they PROMISED the people BEFORE they assumed power. Knowing what they did after obtaining power is somewhat less important than understanding what the people THOUGHT they were getting.
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Old 02-19-2013, 11:58   #154
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You know, the "Ghandi VS Stalin" type graphs are amusing because, in several cases, they leave out a factor that is more important than what they represent.

They show various leaders as we know them to be after they were elected/assumed power/staged a junta, what ever means.

What the graphs should show, to have relevance to politics, is what they PROMISED the people BEFORE they assumed power. Knowing what they did after obtaining power is somewhat less important than understanding what the people THOUGHT they were getting.
So make another, based on what they SAID they would do. Then set it next to the original, add a Z axis, and you can quantify how much of liars they were by connecting their dots.
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Old 02-19-2013, 12:25   #155
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So make another, based on what they SAID they would do. Then set it next to the original, add a Z axis, and you can quantify how much of liars they were by connecting their dots.
I was thinking of the, I thought rather obvious, comparison between what people thought they were going to get versus what they did get as a predictor of the promises that engender support and what believing in those promises actually ends up delivering
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Old 02-19-2013, 12:46   #156
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Extremely strict welfare and disability qualifiers.

Every able bodied human being would work, whether it's picking up trash on the side of the road of scrubbing toilets in goverment buildings.
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Old 02-19-2013, 12:56   #157
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1. Impeach/remove hussein from office for not abiding by his oath to uphold the Constitution/Bill-of-Rights

2. Impeach/remove from office any/all federal/state judges/congressmen/senators/legislators who do not uphold the Constitution/Bill-of-Rights

3. Overturn the hussein-care health-care bill

4. Strip the federal reserve of all regulatory power

5. Impose a flat 10% income tax...no exceptions

6. CLOSE the border with mexico with troops, deport ALL illegal aliens immediately and remove ALL benefits now provided to illegal aliens until they can all be deported. Kids of illegals born here will NOT be granted citizenship (retroactively).

7. Rescind affirmative action now...hiring should be based upon merit alone

8. Welfare recipients must work or perform community service for their benefits. Welfare recipients would 'man' the child-care facilities for other welfare recipients with kids

If I think of anything else, I'll update my post.
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1. Impeach/remove hussein from office for not abiding by his oath to uphold the Constitution/Bill-of-Rights

2. Impeach/remove from office any/all federal/state judges/congressmen/senators/legislators who do not uphold the Constitution/Bill-of-Rights

3. Overturn the hussein-care health-care bill

4. Strip the federal reserve of all regulatory power

5. Impose a flat 10% income tax...no exceptions

6. CLOSE the border with mexico with troops, deport ALL illegal aliens immediately and remove ALL benefits now provided to illegal aliens until they can all be deported. Kids of illegals born here will NOT be granted citizenship (retroactively).

7. Rescind affirmative action now...hiring should be based upon merit alone

8. Welfare recipients must work or perform community service for their benefits. Welfare recipients would 'man' the child-care facilities for other welfare recipients with kids

If I think of anything else, I'll update my post.
Now, that I'd call a prescription to remedy this death sentence!

Can't wait until we get that 'update'.
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I was thinking of the, I thought rather obvious, comparison between what people thought they were going to get versus what they did get as a predictor of the promises that engender support and what believing in those promises actually ends up delivering
Theres no realistic way to quantify that.
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Old 02-19-2013, 14:46   #160
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Theres no realistic way to quantify that.
"Aye, there's the rub...." as the Bard said.

The effect is real and the results are real, but sadly ignored because people can't put them on their little charts and therefore validate them to their fellow chart readers.
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Put all leftists into a sack, tie a brick to it and throw into river


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Old 02-19-2013, 15:00   #162
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Who said anything about killing people they disagree with?
So are you going to admit you're lying, or are you going to make me post your quote again? I mean, you do understand that everyone can read your previous posts in the thread, right?


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So are you going to admit you're lying, or are you going to make me post your quote again? I mean, you do understand that everyone can read your previous posts in the thread, right?


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Assemble all leftists. Line them up face to face. Give them samurai swords.

Then throw some welfare checks between them.

**caveat** must not be done on a windy day or checks will blow around and create chaos.


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Old 02-19-2013, 20:52   #165
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Empty all the prisons. Every felony is punished by public execution. Immediately upon conviction - no appeal. Every misdemeanor is punished by whipping. Immediately. Use the cash savings to increase the number of law enforcement personnel. Train and arm them like regular army. Nothing promotes a compliant populace like dozens of heavily armed personnel on every intersection! I saw that in eastern Europe in the mid 60's. People there were polite and docile.
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Empty all the prisons. Every felony is punished by public execution. Immediately upon conviction - no appeal. Every misdemeanor is punished by whipping. Immediately. Use the cash savings to increase the number of law enforcement personnel. Train and arm them like regular army. Nothing promotes a compliant populace like dozens of heavily armed personnel on every intersection! I saw that in eastern Europe in the mid 60's. People there were polite and docile.
I'm gonna throw up
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Old 02-19-2013, 21:22   #167
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Empty all the prisons. Every felony is punished by public execution. Immediately upon conviction - no appeal. Every misdemeanor is punished by whipping. Immediately. Use the cash savings to increase the number of law enforcement personnel. Train and arm them like regular army. Nothing promotes a compliant populace like dozens of heavily armed personnel on every intersection! I saw that in eastern Europe in the mid 60's. People there were polite and docile.
Sounds just like what Obama is trying to do now.
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Empty all the prisons. Every felony is punished by public execution. Immediately upon conviction - no appeal. Every misdemeanor is punished by whipping. Immediately. Use the cash savings to increase the number of law enforcement personnel. Train and arm them like regular army. Nothing promotes a compliant populace like dozens of heavily armed personnel on every intersection! I saw that in eastern Europe in the mid 60's. People there were polite and docile.
Would you settle for armed drones in every city?
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Empty all the prisons. Every felony is punished by public execution. Immediately upon conviction - no appeal. Every misdemeanor is punished by whipping. Immediately. Use the cash savings to increase the number of law enforcement personnel. Train and arm them like regular army. Nothing promotes a compliant populace like dozens of heavily armed personnel on every intersection! I saw that in eastern Europe in the mid 60's. People there were polite and docile.
I tell you what.

Try that out in Boston first and let us know how it goes.

BTW, this website give a list of the 20 most common felonies (2009 data).
http://felonyguide.com/List-of-felon...s.php?cmpage=2

Per your criteria, there would have been a one year total of over 10 million immediate public executions in a population of 309 million people. About 1 in 30. Morality aside, good luck with that. This is not an unarmed populous like Eastern Europe.
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You know, after reading this thread, it should be no mystery to anyone why the Democrats are in control. The right wing has gone bat**** crazy.
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You know, after reading this thread, it should be no mystery to anyone why the Democrats are in control. The right wing has gone bat**** crazy.
I don't know about the others here, but I'm going to definitely quote John Rambo as to his professional opinion and diagnosis.

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Or a game show "who's a commie?"

Reality show? Put a gaggle of com-symps in a house. Audience votes by text message. Commie with most votes gets the noose.


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The one thing I'd do to fix this country is fix stupid. No more breeding. Supreme Court said that was allowed over 100 years ago.
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The one thing I'd do to fix this country is fix stupid. No more breeding. Supreme Court said that was allowed over 100 years ago.
You'd have company with the likes of Margret Sanger (founder of Planned Parenthood) and other Progressive eugenicists.
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You'd have company with the likes of Margret Sanger (founder of Planned Parenthood) and other Progressive eugenicists.
Well, they do have the Supreme Court on their side. SCOTUS ruled at the beginning of the 20th century that chronic criminals and severe mentally ill persons could be sterilized. The case involved the state of Virginia.

In the long term it would help reduce the amount of money our government spends to provide for other people's children. [insert video of woman from Florida on government assistance with 12 kids evicted from home].

Also, people who abuse government services should her publicly flogged [insert article of FCC asking people receiving free cell phones to prove eligibility. 41% couldn't.]

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