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Old 03-18-2013, 18:36   #26
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LGS limited to a 100 round box of Remington Yellow Jackets. Not my fav but they go bang.
How are things in NY? Have you had to turn in your 8- and up-round magazines?
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Old 03-18-2013, 20:54   #27
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Have you heard of any of the ammo ammo companies expanding their operations and adding more machinery? Or are they just doing what they usually do, produce what they can with what they have.
WHy would they? It is never a good business model to spend money w/o a sustainable market. They are doing studies, gauranteed, but they also know what many of us do, this is temporary & they would be foolish to start spending capital if there is no future demand. Big companies like ATK, ammo production is a drop in their economic bucket. When you are selling missle systems to the US Govt @ 100-400% profit, why worry about ammo manuf & it's relatively small profit margins of 20% or so.
So short answer, look for this to continue thru the 2014 election cycle. Dems win congress, it will get A LOT WORSE. Dems lose the Senate & House, things could be back to "normal" in as little as a 3 month from then. Prices are NEVER coming back, sorry guys. You can't print $40B a month & not expect inflation. So anything commodity based will continue to go up in price. Lots of commodities in ammo.
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Old 03-19-2013, 08:33   #28
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If the Gestapo keeps buying all of the available ammo in lots of a billion then not until it is to late ...
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Old 03-20-2013, 07:22   #29
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Have you heard of any of the ammo ammo companies expanding their operations and adding more machinery? Or are they just doing what they usually do, produce what they can with what they have.
Makers of remanufactured ammo and ammo using new brass, like Freedom Munitions, Red River Ammo, and Great Lakes Ammo are at the mercy of their suppliers for components. Freedom is selling out of approx. 500K rounds per week. When 9mm pops up on their website it's selling out on an average of three minutes. They do have a store in Houston, Tx that stays fairly well stocked if you're in that area. I'm at the end of two months waiting for two cases of 9mm from Great Lakes and yesterday received an email that explained...again...the problems in getting sufficient components. They are no longer taking orders for any caliber and are doing their best to fill existing orders. They recently got in an apparently large shipment of both .40 and .45 bullets and will begin filling backorders for those. As for 9mm, they received only one fifth of the bullets needed to fill all their backorders.
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Old 03-20-2013, 07:32   #30
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soon but.....

I was told yesterday to expect it around mid-May.

I was also told to not be surprised if there was a SIN-TAX on ammo in the very near future.

We'll see...
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Old 03-20-2013, 07:51   #31
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Its still pretty difficult here in Central Illinois but I was able to score 3 boxes of 100 round packs of WWB here at my local walmart this morning. They had more ammo in there than I have seen in a while.
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Old 03-20-2013, 08:16   #32
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When people stop taking advantage of the panic buying. Would it surprise you to know that the supply has been corrupted by investors? People who see a "supply and demand" opportunity?

My local Walmart has a group of 5 guys that are there for every truck unloading. They each buy their limit in every caliber, then turn around and sell it online and at the gun shows at a higher price.
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Old 03-20-2013, 11:24   #33
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I don't see it loosening up any time soon. That said I have been wrong a time or three and this is one of those times I hope I'm Wrong. SJ 40
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I forget where I heard it, but mid-May 2013.
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I was told yesterday to expect it around mid-May.

I was also told to not be surprised if there was a SIN-TAX on ammo in the very near future.

We'll see...
Well add'l tax I agree on, May, who ever told you that is smoking crack.
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Well add'l tax I agree on, May, who ever told you that is smoking crack.

You agree on taxing ammo at an additional rate than other items? Please explain....
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Old 03-20-2013, 12:46   #37
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Why doesn't the government open up our strategic reserve like they do with oil? This would help consumers. :D

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Old 03-20-2013, 16:00   #38
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Well add'l tax I agree on, May, who ever told you that is smoking crack.
she was too big to be a crackhead.

She was just repeating what her manager had told her so take with a grain of salt.
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Old 03-20-2013, 16:19   #39
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My local Walmart has a group of 5 guys that are there for every truck unloading. They each buy their limit in every caliber, then turn around and sell it online and at the gun shows at a higher price.
Same here in Mid MO.
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When all this craziness started with availability of ammo and guns, I thought it would be shortlived. I'm not sure anymore. When do you think ammo will be more readily available and prices will start to come back down?

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Old 03-21-2013, 11:08   #41
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Assuming US ammo manufactures are operating at maximum production, I'm surprised we don't see a lot more imported ammo. Is there some reason why imported ammo availability has not increased significantly?

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Old 03-21-2013, 11:18   #42
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Don't even go to the range anymore. I don't want to use up what I have. Once the uncertainty is over regarding any new laws, the ammo will be back. Who knows how long this will take?
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My local Walmart has a group of 5 guys that are there for every truck unloading. They each buy their limit in every caliber, then turn around and sell it online and at the gun shows at a higher price.
I was in mine the other morning and heard one of the employees bragging about picking up 3 boxes that morning. Chapped me to no end. I figure a lot of this is going on at all the stores.
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Old 03-21-2013, 11:50   #44
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I don't think that here is a "strategic ammo reserve."
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Old 03-21-2013, 13:31   #45
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I don't thank that here is a "strategic ammo reserve."
Feds buy two billion rounds of ammo.

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That is not for selling to consumers, it's for controlling them!
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Not for a long time. Too much panic. People are afraid what next year might bring.
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When all this craziness started with availability of ammo and guns, I thought it would be shortlived. I'm not sure anymore. When do you think ammo will be more readily available and prices will start to come back down?
When the Kenyan stops buying up the ammo.
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While in Academy today, after leaving the ammo aisle I walked past this shirt.
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It was almost mocking me as I walked away with a few boxes of shotgun shells and none of the ammo I really want.
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