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Old 03-27-2013, 12:30   #21
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1/2 hour total. That's for a full body workout e.g. Curls. Take a barbell and do one set with 40 pounds. Rest a minute. Than take a barbell and put on 80or 90 or 100 pounds. Just enough where you can't do more than 5 reps. Than you are done with biceps for a week.
Do this for each body part. Your muscles grow NOT in the gym but while at rest.
I'm not looking for a debate. When you quit making progress give this a try. You will be amazed. Or don't try it. I don't care. I'm not looking for an argument. Good luck with whatever you try
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Old 03-27-2013, 13:19   #22
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1/2 hour TOTAL, or per body part/muscle group?

I'd day if BPs are dangerous then squats are even more so.
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Old 03-27-2013, 13:47   #23
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Also stay away from bench presses. Too dangerous
Wow. Congrats for the most ignorant statement of the day. I've been a competitive powerlifter for the past 10 years and have managed to build my raw bench to 530 in that time, without having EVER incurred an injury due to bench pressing. Perhaps you should learn how to bench press correctly before giving out incorrect information. And I assure you, if you can't bench without hurting yourself then you DO NOT know how to bench.



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1/2 hour total. That's for a full body workout e.g. Curls. Take a barbell and do one set with 40 pounds. Rest a minute. Than take a barbell and put on 80or 90 or 100 pounds. Just enough where you can't do more than 5 reps. Than you are done with biceps for a week.
Do this for each body part. Your muscles grow NOT in the gym but while at rest.
I'm not looking for a debate. When you quit making progress give this a try. You will be amazed. Or don't try it. I don't care. I'm not looking for an argument. Good luck with whatever you try
Some folks will make gains on such a routine but such folks would likely make gains no matter what they did.
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I gotta somewhat agree with the dude. BP is probably more dangerous than the other lifts. I'd guess that since the BP came into prominence there have been more deaths and serious injuries caused by it over any other lift. However, toO dangerous? I doubt it. I'm sure more people are killed every year while running or biking t
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Wow. Congrats for the most ignorant statement of the day. I've been a competitive powerlifter for the past 10 years and have managed to build my raw bench to 530 in that time, without having EVER incurred an injury due to bench pressing. Perhaps you should learn how to bench press correctly before giving out incorrect information. And I assure you, if you can't bench without hurting yourself then you DO NOT know how to bench.



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1/2 hour total. That's for a full body workout e.g. Curls. Take a barbell and do one set with 40 pounds. Rest a minute. Than take a barbell and put on 80or 90 or 100 pounds. Just enough where you can't do more than 5 reps. Than you are done with biceps for a week.
Do this for each body part. Your muscles grow NOT in the gym but while at rest.
I'm not looking for a debate. When you quit making progress give this a try. You will be amazed. Or don't try it. I don't care. I'm not looking for an argument. Good luck with whatever you try
Since you said BPs are "dangerous", what would you have folks do for chest?

How do you know your innovative method works?
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Since you said BPs are "dangerous", what would you have folks do for chest?

How do you know your innovative method works?
It works because I have used it. And others I've known used it. It's mind blowing the results.
Also there have been books written on it that take this approach.
I'm not saying its the only one that will work. I'm saying it produces better results than other methods. And the upside is better results giving one lots of time for other things.
Bench presses are more of a shoulder and arm excerise. The chest is secondary. Lots of other more effective chest exercises. Pick one that you like.
Dead lifts should absolutely be done once a week not a better exercise out there. You will be increasing the weight the FIRST WEEK. GUARANTEED. no better proof than that. Water and diet ARE A MUST.
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Sorry the book is called HEAVY DUTY TRAINING. BY MIKE MENTZER.
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Old 03-28-2013, 06:17   #31
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Lots of other more effective chest exercises. Pick one that you like.
Dead lifts should absolutely be done once a week not a better exercise out there. You will be increasing the weight the FIRST WEEK. GUARANTEED. no better proof than that. Water and diet ARE A MUST.
Can you name these other chest exercises?

If you take out all types of bench presses (barbell, DBs, close grip, and inclines and declines), all I can think of are dips and flyes.
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Sorry the book is called HEAVY DUTY TRAINING. BY MIKE MENTZER.
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haha I knew it. I was thinking this all sounded like Mentzers Heavy Duty (aka HIT).

But didn't he also use forced reps on his work sets?

So what kind of gains did this program give you?
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I've tried that. I even had many conversations with Mike M himself. Gains for me were minimal.

The abbreviated routine I'm on now works great. I'll stick with it. I do have to work around my health issues, though.
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I gotta somewhat agree with the dude. BP is probably more dangerous than the other lifts. I'd guess that since the BP came into prominence there have been more deaths and serious injuries caused by it over any other lift. However, toO dangerous? I doubt it. I'm sure more people are killed every year while running or biking t
Come to think of it, BP is dangerous if done without a spotter or rack with safety bars.
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Hop on CrossFit's website and look at their various workouts. Jump on YouTube and see how the movements work. It's a beast.
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Old 03-28-2013, 19:44   #36
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Come to think of it, BP is dangerous if done without a spotter or rack with safety bars.
There have been times when BPers have been killed even with spotters. Again, the odds of getting killed while weight training are nothing to worry about.
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HIT is very effective. Look at the results Pyros Dimas and Ed Coan got with it. Also, remember the last ten Super Bowl championship teams all trained HIT.
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HIT is very effective. Look at the results Pyros Dimas and Ed Coan got with it. Also, remember the last ten Super Bowl championship teams all trained HIT.
HIT worked great for me on squats for a while.

Did Coan really use HIT? I don't recall that. Or do you just mean working up to a top set?
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