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Old 04-05-2013, 20:16   #26
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There are many places I go that require 100% concealment.

How you must dress also makes a difference.

If the choice is carry no gun or a small gun -

A really slim .380 is a fine choice.

It is not a G26 VS a BG380 - it is no gun or a .380.



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Old 04-05-2013, 20:26   #27
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First, learn to conceal.

Second, conceal the pistol with the highest muzzle energy you can shoot well.
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Old 04-05-2013, 20:36   #28
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My Xds is sexy. A 6 shooter has stopped plenty of baddies so I'm ok with mine when I don't wanna carry the g23.
If you can carry a 380 I'm sure you could manage a shield or Xds 9mm is far superior to 380 IMO
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Old 04-05-2013, 20:42   #29
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IMHO. If you can carry a .380? You can carry a 9mm.

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My Xds is sexy. A 6 shooter has stopped plenty of baddies so I'm ok with mine when I don't wanna carry the g23.
If you can carry a 380 I'm sure you could manage a shield or Xds 9mm is far superior to 380 IMO
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These days 9mm single stack micros are nearly the same size as a .380.
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Old 04-05-2013, 22:30   #30
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The Kahr 380 is still noticeably smaller than the Kahr 9mm.

I have both and rarely feel the need for the 380, but I do very occasionally need something that small.
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Old 04-06-2013, 05:58   #31
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I too am adopting for the LCP during the hot season. With the correct ammunition and proficient use I think I am confident. Sure have grown used to that G27 over the years though! Now that I am crafting deep concealment holsters using the Old Faithful kits, I have lots of options. If nothing else the LCP can be carried by my wife or daughter ... We will see this summer.
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Old 04-06-2013, 06:31   #32
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Putting your 26 aside for a Bodyguard? You're kidding, right?

I have both, but the 26 is my EDC.
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Old 04-06-2013, 11:16   #33
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If I absolutely could not figure out how to sucessfully conceal a G26 I would go for the Bodyguard but not otherwise.
This. I carry my Ruger LCP while jogging as it is much easier to conceal wearing shorts and a tank top
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Old 04-06-2013, 12:21   #34
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Would carry my G26 loaded with Hornady Critical Defense over any .380. IMHO it is a no brainer.
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Old 04-06-2013, 12:27   #35
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I carry a G23 daily and always have my LCP BUG loaded with Hornady CD in my pocket. (DeSantis Super Fly) The 380 is not my primary but it's better than nothing at all.
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Old 04-06-2013, 12:44   #36
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I can see switching to the .380 to go do something like play golf. But to switch from a G26 to a small .380 for the summer, no. I live in Phoenix, Arizona I don't have a problem carrying a G26 daily in the summer. So no I don't see that.
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Old 04-06-2013, 13:11   #37
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How you dress and how you carry is everything...

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I can see switching to the .380 to go do something like play golf. But to switch from a G26 to a small .380 for the summer, no. I live in Phoenix, Arizona I don't have a problem carrying a G26 daily in the summer. So no I don't see that.
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I live in Tampa Florida.
And on steamy summer days easily conceal a HK45C,
or P2000SK, depending on attire.
How you carry and dress is everything.

I've got a MK40, and a pair of J-Frames,
if for some reason I need to be really discreet.

But a .380?
Forget it.

I really think bad choices in clothing and holsters are more the cause.

Concealed carry is supposed to be comforting.
Not comfortable.
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Old 04-06-2013, 13:12   #38
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There are a lot of caliber snobs out there that believe only there favorite caliber is good enough... Well, my statement to them is "I certainly wouldn't want to be shot by anything, including a .22lr!"

Anything can happen....even with a BB gun.
http://www.abcactionnews.com/dpp/new...ad-with-bb-gun

Also, I have and love my Beretta Nano it's a great summer carry gun..

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Old 04-07-2013, 08:46   #39
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Just to add my two cents worth (after inflation, worth nothing) I carried a .380 Sig P238 for a couple of years when the G19 wouldn't hide. When the Sig P938 came out I traded up and the Glock stays in the safe a lot. It hides well in both pocket and IWB holster and is comfortable all day in either. Got me.
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Old 04-07-2013, 09:01   #40
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I have the same 2 guns, they both have their place. I carry the 26 more often but the bodyguard is a lot more convenient.
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Old 04-07-2013, 12:38   #41
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Just to add my two cents worth (after inflation, worth nothing) I carried a .380 Sig P238 for a couple of years when the G16 wouldn't hide. When the Sig P938 came out I traded up and the Glock stays in the safe a lot. It hides well in both pocket and IWB holster and is comfortable all day in either.
Um, what is a G16? Is that like the G7... Which we all know costs a months salary.
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Old 04-07-2013, 12:50   #42
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I rarely carry any of my glock for the simple reason that I wont dress around my gun. that said, I carry a XDS, or lcp. I don't like loose fitting pants where my pistol feels like it is pulling them down. I will only carry the glock in the winter outside the waist in a sturdy holster.
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Old 04-08-2013, 11:45   #43
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If you didn't want to get a 26 I would get the 38spl version before I would get a 380, not a fan of the caliber in the least bit. People can always talk about shot placement all they want but then we can discuss how bad shooting accurately under a fight or flight stress situation is.

Go with what you feel most comfortable with and train as much as ammo availability allows for.
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Old 04-08-2013, 13:56   #44
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I shot my brother-in-law's body guard. The thing is too small for me to hang onto, recoil was worse than my Kahr CW9, wasn't very accurate, probably due to my lack of something to hang onto. A sleeve on the handle may help. He and I both disliked it alot. He wanted to trade me out of my Glock 36 or CW9. I have since bought a G26 and love it. No issues or regrets. If you can't conceal a G26 go shopping for a better IWB holster or baggy Cargo shorts.
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Old 04-08-2013, 14:37   #45
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I have a BG380 that is all I carry right now. My FIL recently bought a Sig P938 and let me shoot it. I'll be upgrading to the Sig when I can afford it. I took his 938 and put it my BG380's superfly pocket holster and it fit perfect and concealed just as good as the BG380 in my front pocket. It's also 10 times more accurate with the lighter trigger.
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imo, the sig 238 is probably the nicest micro .380 that ive messed with.
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Old 04-08-2013, 21:10   #47
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imo, the sig 238 is probably the nicest micro .380 that ive messed with.
Me to, but twice the price.
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Old 04-09-2013, 07:45   #48
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I bought the G26 for a concealed carry pistol, and carried it for almost 2 years.

Personally, I wouldn't carry a .380 as my primary concealed carry pistol, but, do as you want.
For the same thickness and just about the same $$$, look at the S&W Shield in either 9mm or .40.

The Shield .40 is now my primary concealed carry pistol, with 6 in the magazine and 1 in the pipe.
I do NOT feel under-gunned, especially with 165 gr Federal HST in the pistol.
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Old 04-09-2013, 08:16   #49
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It won't replace your G26. It's a suppement to it. They are niche guns. But they fill a very definate purpose. You can "carry a gun when you can't carry a gun". I've mentioned this in several posts.Years ago when I worked private security I witnesses (years apart) two men hit by .380 fmj ammo in the leg.
Both had the large bone (femur???) hit and shatter. Both dropped like a rock in great pain and it was a mess. Caliber can and wil be argued forever. Are the more powerful service size cartridges better? Yes if you hit the right spot. But I had both the KT P3AT and PF9. Now have an LC9 and an LCP. Both are BUG's unless they are all I can carry.
But in spite of what the adds claim about the smaler 9mm's being almost as small as the .380's. The .380's will disappear in about any pocket. Including the front pocket of jeans. The little 9mm's are good. But more of cargo type pocket or rear jean pocket. A couple of years ago a couple was robbed and shot here in Nashville by a robber with a .380. The wife was killed and DRT with one round. The husband down on the next shot but survived.
The whole thing about the .380 being
"ineffective" is not true. Again their are better choices when you can carry something else. But when you do a study on it all handgun calibers are poor manstoppers. We can't usually carry around an AR, AK, or shotgun. Going back to the invention of the handgun their have always been "pocket guns".
Even in flintlock pistols. Through derringers, .25, .32., .380's from the early last century. And todays crop of small .32/.380's. Theirs a reason they have been around so long. They fill a distinct place and purpose in a carry piece. And will continue to do so. And save lives. You G26 is a better IWB gun. But the little guns are for when it's not practical to carry anything else. Something is much better than nothing.
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It won't replace your G26. It's a suppement to it. They are niche guns. But they fill a very definate purpose. You can "carry a gun when you can't carry a gun". I've mentioned this in several posts.Years ago when I worked private security I witnesses (years apart) two men hit by .380 fmj ammo in the leg.
Both had the large bone (femur???) hit and shatter. Both dropped like a rock in great pain and it was a mess. Caliber can and wil be argued forever. Are the more powerful service size cartridges better? Yes if you hit the right spot. But I had both the KT P3AT and PF9. Now have an LC9 and an LCP. Both are BUG's unless they are all I can carry.
But in spite of what the adds claim about the smaler 9mm's being almost as small as the .380's. The .380's will disappear in about any pocket. Including the front pocket of jeans. The little 9mm's are good. But more of cargo type pocket or rear jean pocket. A couple of years ago a couple was robbed and shot here in Nashville by a robber with a .380. The wife was killed and DRT with one round. The husband down on the next shot but survived.
The whole thing about the .380 being
"ineffective" is not true. Again their are better choices when you can carry something else. But when you do a study on it all handgun calibers are poor manstoppers. We can't usually carry around an AR, AK, or shotgun. Going back to the invention of the handgun their have always been "pocket guns".
Even in flintlock pistols. Through derringers, .25, .32., .380's from the early last century. And todays crop of small .32/.380's. Theirs a reason they have been around so long. They fill a distinct place and purpose in a carry piece. And will continue to do so. And save lives. You G26 is a better IWB gun. But the little guns are for when it's not practical to carry anything else. Something is much better than nothing.
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