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Old 04-04-2013, 09:15   #1
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FTE Gen 3 23 NiB-X

Today I was finally able to get out and shoot my brand new Gen 3 23 with an NiB-X finish on the slide and barrel.

100 rounds of Winchester white box.

In the first 50 rounds I had two FTE (failures to eject), and in the second 50 rounds I has one FTE.

Prior to shooting the gun was properly cleaned and oiled with Balistol.


Is it normal for a new Gen 3 23 to have 3 out of 100 FTE's ? Does it just need to break in more ? Could the ammo be the problem ? Or, could the NiB-X finish be the problem ?
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Old 04-04-2013, 09:21   #2
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Is this with all mags?
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Old 04-04-2013, 09:31   #3
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I thought the same thing. But I kept getting them mixed up. So, I don't know.
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Old 04-04-2013, 13:02   #4
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Any other ideas as to what it may be ?
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Old 04-04-2013, 13:40   #5
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Take your magazines, load them to capacity and let them sit for 24 to 48 hours. Then, hit the range, load to capacity minus 1 and see how it functions. A lot of times you'll see this type of error with new tight magazines.
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Old 04-04-2013, 14:26   #6
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2 things come to mind

Limp
wristing

NiB-X finish
on the slide and barrel.
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Old 04-04-2013, 14:34   #7
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2 things come to mind

Limp
wristing

NiB-X finish
on the slide and barrel.
I've got an EXO Fail Zero nickel boron gen3 G27.
IMHO - the problem's not with the nickel boron finish.

And no it's not normal or acceptable.
Not even for NIB.
Have an experienced Glock shooter run the gun and see if it still manfunctions.

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Old 04-04-2013, 20:59   #8
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It could be caused by the Winchester White Box ammo. American Eagle and Speer Lawman work perfectly in my G23 and G27. It could also be caused by an out-of-spec extractor, Glock's recent production extractors have widely varying specs and you may have gotten one that doesn't move freely enough.

Next time you shoot it, pick up some of the spent casings and look at their case mouth's, if there's a triangular dent/scrape on the case mouths it may mean you need a 28926 ejector.
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Old 04-04-2013, 21:04   #9
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Break it in first and then question.
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Old 04-06-2013, 09:42   #10
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Shot another 100 rounds of Winchester white box.

Everything went good until the 92nd round. The previous round extracted fine, but round 92 was a failure to feed. It went to the left of the feed ramp and kept the slide open.

I wasn't limp wristing, my elbow was locked and I had two hands firmly on the gun.

So far I have had 4 hiccups out of 200 rounds.

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Old 04-06-2013, 10:06   #11
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edited previous post, meant to say I wasn't limp wristing


Any ideas as to what the problem might be?
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Old 04-06-2013, 13:35   #12
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edited previous post, meant to say I wasn't limp wristing


Any ideas as to what the problem might be?
I reject the idea that a Glock is always perfect out of the box. I think you should continue to shoot it if you can get the ammo. I would not even consider contacting Glock until I had put about 500 rounds through it.
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Old 04-06-2013, 14:17   #13
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That is good advice. I bought another 100 rounds of Winchester white box, as that is pretty much all I can find locally.

Seems like a lot of ammo and $$$ to use up to see if the gun even works.

Hopefully it will break in. 4 malfunctions in 200 rounds isn't reliable for a carry gun
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Old 04-06-2013, 16:06   #14
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That is good advice. I bought another 100 rounds of Winchester white box, as that is pretty much all I can find locally.

Seems like a lot of ammo and $$$ to use up to see if the gun even works.

Hopefully it will break in. 4 malfunctions in 200 rounds isn't reliable for a carry gun
My gen 3 G27 has a FTF about 1 in 1000 rounds or so.
NIB It easily ran first 1000 with zero problems.
And that was about 1/2 hollow points.
I really think out of spec ammo may be the root cause of any issues I've had.

My G27 has about +7000 rounds on the odometer.
And that's split three ways between 9mm, 357 Sig and 40 S&W.
The Glock OEM 40 barrel has been no more reliable than my Storm Lake barrels.
I think I got a bad Glock OEM G33 357 Sig barrel.
As it wouldn't feed Speer GDHPs.
And swapping a Storm Lake 357 barrel resolved that problem.

Bottom Line, I totally agree, 4 issues in 200 rounds is unacceptable for carry.
I demand 200 self defense rounds run trouble free
before I'll carry that weapon.

Good luck with your gun.
I think if it were mine?
I'd be considering calling Glock Customer Service.
And having a crucial conversation with them.

Doesn't seem like it would be a problem to at least call
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I reject the idea that a Glock is always perfect out of the box. I think you should continue to shoot it if you can get the ammo. I would not even consider contacting Glock until I had put about 500 rounds through it.
Great advice.
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That is good advice. I bought another 100 rounds of Winchester white box, as that is pretty much all I can find locally.

Seems like a lot of ammo and $$$ to use up to see if the gun even works.

Hopefully it will break in. 4 malfunctions in 200 rounds isn't reliable for a carry gun
Well, you'd be shooting the gun anyway even if it were100% so I don't see it as a waste. Glock will be there if you need them but shooting it some very well may prevent you from the annoyance of sending it in. Glock isn't going anywhere and your warranty will be just as good 500 rounds from now. You may not need the warranty then. In these times, I ain't sending any of my guns out unless it is absolutely a necessity.
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Old 04-06-2013, 19:18   #17
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I bought it off of Gunbroker. It was new, but do I still have a warranty?
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I bought it off of Gunbroker. It was new, but do I still have a warranty?
Yes. It should have had a warranty card in the box to fill out and mail in. I tried to register my new G19 online and they would not let me. Other gunmakers make it simple to register you gun online but Glock is still in the 1980's mode of thinking.
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I bought it off of Gunbroker. It was new, but do I still have a warranty?
You sure do. Glock does not care about its age or number of owners.
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Old 04-06-2013, 19:51   #20
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i doubt its the NIBx coating. Ive ran 600+ round through my G19 NIBx without a single malfunction. Thats acceptable for my carry gun

Whitebox is not the best of ammo, try the mag trick too...

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