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Old 04-14-2013, 14:12   #1
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bought a new 1911 with an idiot mark

bought a new 1911 that came with an idiot mark from the factory. They say they will send me postage and store owner is going to help me send it to factory with FFL transfer.
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Old 04-14-2013, 14:25   #2
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What kind of gun? Did it come straight from the factory or go through channels where someone probably showed their skills on taking it down?
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Old 04-15-2013, 05:59   #3
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Why did you drop the money on in if it had the idiot mark in the gun store? I wouldn't buy any gun that had the smallest blemish whatsoever.
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Old 04-15-2013, 07:44   #4
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It was tie-wrapped closed. I thought it was mandatory that all guns stayed that way while in the show. Personal guns brought in are tie-wrapped at the door, and have to stay that way until you leave. Those are USED guns that I think need more inspection than a NEW gun from a reputable store's booth. I did ask for, and got confirmation that it was a new gun. The store owner is working with me, and factory is paying for the shipping for them to inspect. Click image for larger version

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See ! it looks fine with the slide tie-wrapped closed.
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I had a gunsmith to a professional inspection the next day after purchasing it. He informed me it was from improper reassembly. I think the factory will make it right. I love the way the gun feels in my hand.


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Old 04-15-2013, 18:11   #5
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Can you even see that without the slide off? Lol

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Old 04-15-2013, 21:56   #6
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DAMN! That's a serious mark - it looks scratched or gouged into the metal!
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Old 04-15-2013, 23:04   #7
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Can you even see that without the slide off? Lol
I phoned a local 1911 gunsmith the day after I bought the gun about the marks and that's when he said he would examine it for me. That is where i took the stripped picture. There are other marks on the rails - etc, none of which hinder the performance of the firearm, but just question whether it it is "new".
Yes you can see it with the slide locked back..

This is not my first gun, just my first 1911.- And my first SW. I really like the feel of this bobtailed model. The scratches are minor, and fixable


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Old 04-16-2013, 17:29   #8
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There are certain wear patterns that happen to a gun either during shooting, or even when it's new and being assembled. Wear in the finish on the slide rails for instance is normal. I have never seen a new gun that didn't have some wear on it from assembly alone. That little mark is from the slide stop rubbing on the finish when the slide is cycled and locked back or released. It to is normal to some extent.

However yours looks like there are gouge marks on it. Like something (metal shavings, grit, ect) got under it and were worked into the gun when the slide and stop were operated.

I would imagine S&W won't do anything with it other than touch it up with something.
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Well the gun is on its way back to them. Free of charge. Click image for larger version

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Does the shiny mark on the right side of the frame look normal for a new gun?

I have a good feeling that S&W will make it right. Assembly line snafus happen, but usually companies take good care of their customers. I really like the way this 1911 feels in my hand!
I'll keep it regardless!


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Old 04-17-2013, 17:17   #10
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That does not look normal.

Anywhere the slide moves will have normal wear marks. That looks more like there is a burr or a bump on the slide that has caused that.
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Well the gun is on its way back to them. Free of charge.

Does the shiny mark on the right side of the frame look normal for a new gun?
No, it absolutely does not.

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I have a good feeling that S&W will make it right. Assembly line snafus happen, but usually companies take good care of their customers. I really like the way this 1911 feels in my hand!
I'll keep it regardless!
I sincerely hope you're right. I'm strongly considering adding one myself.
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Why did you drop the money on in if it had the idiot mark in the gun store? I wouldn't buy any gun that had the smallest blemish whatsoever.
And I buy everyone I can if the cost goes down because of it. Same goes for appliances and cars and about everything else but clothes. Hell, what am I saying, I admit it, I've shopped at Goodwill.
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I looked at one of those S&W 1911's the other day and it looked worse than yours. The slide release is out of spec. My ruger looks the same btw.

Your right rail looks a bit off. I doubt it will do anything, other than piss you off.
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Old 04-18-2013, 13:04   #15
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I'd be more pissed about the safety, unless you pulled it out some.
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Old 05-10-2013, 16:24   #16
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I got a call from S&W yesterday. The repair section has had my new 1911 for a few weeks, and the guy left me a message saying that they are going to give me another new gun. The FFL transfer fees and shipping will be covered by S&W. I haven't been able to talk to him about what happened in the first place, but it looks promising that the company cares about its customers!
The only bad is that I have to wait until Tuesday to get the return process started.


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I got a call from S&W yesterday. The repair section has had my new 1911 for a few weeks, and the guy left me a message saying that they are going to give me another new gun. The FFL transfer fees and shipping will be covered by S&W. I haven't been able to talk to him about what happened in the first place, but it looks promising that the company cares about its customers!
The only bad is that I have to wait until Tuesday to get the return process started.


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Keep us updated. I'm wondering if you'll still have a mark where the slide release is. That's very cool that you're getting a new gun though!!
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BTW - How the heck did you end up in the "test posts" section?
My first post failed. My pictures didn't load, so I tried the practice post section.
I think I left them too big (?).
I do everything with my iPhone ...
I screwed up and double posted on another thread posting duplicate pics of my Python and GP100. Erasing the script of "attach>~" didn't stop the upload. ....


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Old 05-11-2013, 15:27   #20
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I think I will invest in that custom slide stop from 10-8 performance posted on another thread. " idiot mark" by ColCol
Carbon steel version comes in black oxide finish and will look stock. Promises better fit and reduced chance of frame scratching 😁


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