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Old 04-20-2013, 20:55   #1
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Questions about 1911s

I have very little experience with 1911s and am now thinking I want to buy one. I know there are tons of variations and options when buying. I do know I want a full size, with a steel frame. From my limited knowledge I know I want a modern one.

What options or features do I want to look for? Why?

Is there any books or web sites I can look over to learn what I want to look for.

I'm not looking for a show piece. I'm looking for one that will be the most user friendly. I'm not interested in looks, but want great function. At this point I don't know the brand names to look into or avoid.

I handled a Kimber Warior and liked it, but don't think I want to spent $1500.

What is the most bang for the buck?

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Old 04-20-2013, 21:18   #2
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Take a good look at Springfield. They make a great 1911 for reasonable prices. They have the best service in the industry. They also have an awesome custom shop. Get a basic model that fills your immediate needs. After you've gotten used to it and know changes you want to make, you can send it to Springfield for modifications.
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Old 04-20-2013, 21:23   #3
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I would suggest either of these as a starting point...

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Old 04-20-2013, 21:26   #4
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See if you have a good gunsmith in the area. I bought my latest .45 by going into the store and getting one that came in used so recently that it was not even out on the shelf yet. Told the salesman that it was a project gun and I did not want to pay for a bunch of parts I was not keeping. Paid $550 out the door and another $300 to my smith to fix it up. Would have cost well over $1,000 if not $1,500 to get the same thing off the shelf if it came available with the parts I requested in the build.
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Old 04-20-2013, 21:35   #5
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The basic 1911 is a blank canvas for the buyer to decide what HE wants. It is hard for another person to tell him what that is.

I'll give you some short observations gleaned since 1977 with the "platform".

I am overwhelmingly impressed with the strong hand thumb safety on my New Sig Scorpion. It is sure and easy to use but, unlike many isn't big enough to have been the table used in the painting of "The Last Supper". However I find "Ambi" safeties" a nuisance at best and a hazard at worst. again the Sig is well thought out it one must.

A beveled mag well is of course a must.

Folks want to hate on the Taurus (even folks I respect) but, and I am not suggesting buying one, HANDLE one. Most folks over look the fact that, among the 1911's I have, it has a bit different feel than most others because the front strap is less rounded as if a standard 1911 was flattened prior to being textured. I like it. That and the underside of the trigger guard it similarly treated and does give the support hand a noticeable bit of purchase.

Other "extended" this and that are of more theoretical than practical advantage. someday I am going to find or make a LOWER profile slide stop lever.

I don't like the flat trigger on the SIG. Holes in the trigger are better at collecting dust than anything else.

A flat checkered/textured sight plane is a nice thing, coupled with sights that give you a picture you like.

Do your research and get the best finish you can, of your choice of course. The 1911 has sharp corners that shed finishes rapidly. Speaking of such, I have seen some 1911s with a browning HP type chamfer at the front of the slide I find useful in reholstering and attractive to boot.

Other than that it is all subjective and in the eye/hand of the shooter.
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Old 04-20-2013, 22:21   #6
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Ok, beveled mag well is something I didnt know about.

What is a bever tail?
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Old 04-21-2013, 01:04   #7
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Ok, beveled mag well is something I didnt know about.

What is a bever tail?
A beavertail grip safety is up swept and is used in conjunction with a rounded hammer instead of the original spurred hammer so that the hammer wouldn't pinch the web of your hand when the slide flies back and cocks it.

Top is original spurred hammer with the grip safety that has a tiny nub. Bottom is a kidney shaped hammer with a beavertail grip safety.

Mind you, not everybody gets pinched by the spurred hammer and original style grip safety.

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Go with a Springfield Armory, Range Officer my friend

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Old 04-21-2013, 06:43   #10
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Start your research here....although the pics are gone, useful reading
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I concur with Okie. The Range Officer is a good bargain for what you get.
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Start your research here....although the pics are gone, useful reading
http://www.1911addicts.com/showthrea...911-addicts...
The buyers guide is the best. The author is bac1023, same username on this site. He is probably the guy with the greatest collection of 1911's I have ever known of, and I trust his judgement in 1911's over most anyone, as he does not have a profit riding on his answers, not a bias towards his own work.

Too, you may consider joining the 1911addicts forum. Some of the guys over there are incredibly knowledgeable in the 1911 arena. Many of those folks are also here, but some are not.
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I had a 1911 on my gun to bucket list. When I was looking for a 1911, it was a bit overwhelming. I ended up with a Kimber Ultra Crimson Carry II. However, my experience with it was less than stellar. I had to send my NIB Kimber back to the factory because it would not go into battery. It took 7 weeks to get my new gun back. When I received it I was rather disappointed that Kimber didn't send some piece of swag ( tool box decal or some small thank you ) for having a issue with a NIB firearm. However, since i got it back, its been flawless. I've run about 200 rounds thru it without any hiccups.
When and if I buy another 1911, it will most likely be a Springfield.

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Old 04-21-2013, 11:41   #16
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Sig 1911's are very nice. I have a c3 that I carry regularly. Also look into the Remington R1 1911 enhanced. Probably one of the best 1911's I the market for the price right now.

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I have very little experience with 1911s and am now thinking I want to buy one.
What is the most bang for the buck?
Start with one of these-




http://www.auto-ordnance.com/Firearm...1911PKZSEW.asp

The grips are goofy but it's made in USA.
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Check out www.1911forum.com. Those guys know more about 1911's than I could ever hope. They have a section for each manufacturer, makes research very easy. I would avoid kimber and sig. They are a crapshoot at best. My choice for entry level would be a STI Spartan. They run about $600 and have an awesome warranty serviced in Texas. I have handled a few and the fit is much better than a range officer... Just my .02


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Old 04-21-2013, 22:24   #19
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Thanks for the links to the 2 other forums. I will be busy reading for a while.

What is the benefit on the rounded hammer over the spur hammer? I've always liked the spur style and never thought about why the rounded style was developed. Is it just less likely to snag on things when carried?
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Thanks for the links to the 2 other forums. I will be busy reading for a while.

What is the benefit on the rounded hammer over the spur hammer? I've always liked the spur style and never thought about why the rounded style was developed. Is it just less likely to snag on things when carried?
Primarily it was to help preventing the web-of-hand pinch like I mentioned before. Colt came out with the rounded hammer in the Commander series (4.25" barrel).

Later on there were various oblong shapes of the hammer offered, but pretty much the kidney shape is the accepted shape nowadays.

As far as snagging on things, I doubt it. However, the round/kidney hammers don't dig into your rib/waist as much when you carry it close to the body.

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