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Old 04-21-2013, 10:03   #51
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I replied to a different post and stated that my G36 shot flawlessly after its return from Smyrna and an RSA replacement. Well, after approximately 100 rds, its back to the problem of frequent failures-to-load with an occasional stove-pipe. I mentioned this to an instructor at the range and he asked if he could shoot it. He ran four mags through the 36 flawlessly. He felt that my grip need to be harder. So, I tightened my grip (significantly) and ran 100 rds through with no problem.

With my G21 and G34 I use a firm grip, and with my G23 I use a very firm grip. Evidently, I will need to use a hard grip for the G36 to function properly. The instructor's philosophy is that every pistol should be held with a hard grip. So, I will be changing my grip strength on all pistols.
When Detonics came out with their pocket sized 1911ish .45, it took a whole different grip than a standard 5" 1911. The gun just didn't have enough mass to make the recoil system work. Jams were frequent. Plastic guns have even less mass.

In the 1911 world, it was said that your grip was correct when the wooden grips on the gun became sawdust on the ground.

I would fully expect the G36 to take a very firm grip. I would be disappointed in this, though, because what if I can only shoot weak hand, unsupported? I want a gun that will function if I have to use a weak hand two finger grip.

Maybe with full power ammo, even a G36 will function with a lesser grip.

One of these days I simply have to buy one. Just to check it out...

Richard
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Old 04-21-2013, 10:07   #52
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When Detonics came out with their pocket sized 1911ish .45, it took a whole different grip than a standard 5" 1911. The gun just didn't have enough mass to make the recoil system work. Jams were frequent. Plastic guns have even less mass.

In the 1911 world, it was said that your grip was correct when the wooden grips on the gun became sawdust on the ground.

I would fully expect the G36 to take a very firm grip. I would be disappointed in this, though, because what if I can only shoot weak hand, unsupported? I want a gun that will function if I have to use a weak hand two finger grip.

Maybe with full power ammo, even a G36 will function with a lesser grip.

One of these days I simply have to buy one. Just to check it out...

Richard

Please see my most recent post from my range experience this morning (just prior to your first post from today).
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Old 04-21-2013, 10:14   #53
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Great to hear that the new extractor worked!


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Old 04-21-2013, 10:18   #54
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Great to hear that the new extractor worked!


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Yes well so far anyway, keeping my fingers crossed but I'm encouraged. Thanks Dan.
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Old 04-21-2013, 10:19   #55
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I am comfortable with my grip. All my other handguns run with my current grip. I refuse to alter my grip just to make 1 pistol run right. I guess that would be my answer to that instructor. Talk to a different instructor and you will probably get a different answer on your grip. Just saying.


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Old 04-21-2013, 10:28   #56
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GicleeOne, Glad to see your 36 is functioning properly now.
The evidence seems to be mounting that on some 36's either there is not enough tension on the extractor to hold the empty case or the extractor "hook" angles are off possibly due to manufacturing tolerances.
Perhaps the "higher power" SD ammo overcomes this by simply having more recoil force and/or slide speed which causes the empty case to stay in place until contacting the ejector rather then relying on the the extractor to hold it in place. At any rate, that is something for someone more knowledgeable then me to figure out.
I am just glad it worked for your G36, please update the forum from time to time to let us know if the function changes.
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Old 04-21-2013, 10:37   #57
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GicleeOne, Glad to see your 36 is functioning properly now.
The evidence seems to be mounting that on some 36's either there is not enough tension on the extractor to hold the empty case or the extractor "hook" angles are off possibly due to manufacturing tolerances.
Perhaps the "higher power" SD ammo overcomes this by simply having more recoil force and/or slide speed which causes the empty case to stay in place until contacting the ejector rather then relying on the the extractor to hold it in place. At any rate, that is something for someone more knowledgeable then me to figure out.
I am just glad it worked for your G36, please update the forum from time to time to let us know if the function changes.
And thank you basment for pointing me in this direction. If it weren't for your info my next move was going to be calling Glock which most likely would have resulted in them sending me a new RSA which in turn most likely would not have helped.
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Please see my most recent post from my range experience this morning (just prior to your first post from today).
I read that! It's good to see a parts swap was a help. I'm not convinced it is necessary but it is sufficient.

When I eventually buy a G36, I may go the same way if I have any problems. I have no idea how it will work out.

The thing is, G36s may be a little scarce right now.

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I read that! It's good to see a parts swap was a help. I'm not convinced it is necessary but it is sufficient.

When I eventually buy a G36, I may go the same way if I have any problems. I have no idea how it will work out.

The thing is, G36s may be a little scarce right now.

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Old 01-24-2014, 22:59   #60
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I bought a brand new G36 (SN# LFR393) in 2008 that is plagued with failure to ejects. Any Ammo you want to run guys. Its absolutely stock, other than the parts and multiple magazines that Glock has replaced. Its been to Glock twice and nothing changed. Gun store told me to stuff it in the safe even though they fired it and it happened to their Glock armorer. My 36 is problems are not ammo related, that has been proven over and over and I have lots of pictures.

Later, I ended up buying a gen 3 G26 to carry and it has worked flawlessly.

You think whatever you want to feel good about your choices, I'm the one out the hard earned cash on a dud.
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Old 01-25-2014, 05:00   #61
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I feel for you glockrock. My 36 was a jamomatic out of the box as well. With some tinkering I was able to get it to run. Now it just throws brass in my face but at least it runs on anything. Out of the box it would only run on high power ammo. Still not sure if I am going to keep this thing long term. Other then the minor problems it has now, I absolutely love the platform.
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Old 01-25-2014, 06:05   #62
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other than a few spent caseing to the face when it was new my G36 has run flawlessly on everything I've ran through it since.Results may vary
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Old 01-25-2014, 16:51   #64
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I had not shot my g36 in a while so put a box of blazer fmj through it today. The only problem I have ever had is the cost of 45acp ammo! It is a good ccw imo. I used to carry it all the time, but switched to the lcr last year. I prefer to carry a revolver now, but the 36 always preformed very well. I will always have a spot for it in my gun safe.
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