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Old 04-30-2013, 10:02   #41
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First determine your budget and how much you can afford for the rifle,ammo and magazines along with tools and other equipment needed to maintain/use the rifle.
+1 You need to also budget mags(at least 10), ammo(not the best time to buy, and a solid cleaning kit, and lastly a good optic(Aimpoint Pro).
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Old 04-30-2013, 10:33   #42
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+1 You need to also budget mags(at least 10), ammo(not the best time to buy, and a solid cleaning kit, and lastly a good optic(Aimpoint Pro).
Just 10??? I'm approaching 200, mostly pmags, I buy here and there. Mags are a disposable item, I'd recommend at least 30 and ideally 50 or more rifles per mag. Regarding optics, lights and other various upgrades, the OP doesn't need to buy it all at once, but should be mindful these will be part of the cost, along with purchase of vital/vulnerable spare parts.
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This won't be a one shot deal I don't think. Ill buy the rifle now, mags on the way, and ammo when I can find it. Optics will come when I can afford a good one and not something that's just "ok."


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Old 04-30-2013, 13:34   #44
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Just 10??? I'm approaching 200, mostly pmags, I buy here and there. Mags are a disposable item, I'd recommend at least 30 and ideally 50 or more rifles per mag. Regarding optics, lights and other various upgrades, the OP doesn't need to buy it all at once, but should be mindful these will be part of the cost, along with purchase of vital/vulnerable spare parts.
I wish i had 50 rifles per mag!
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He's got some bushmaster, colt, and one HK.

I'm definitely thinking carbine and piston. Probably going to do it through gun broker since my LGS only has so much. Thanks much for be input so far guys


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As someone else, said - Colt, then HK, and Bushmaster is an extremely distant third. I also agree with Murphy, that piston ARs are an answer to a question almost nobody was asking. The only time I can see piston uppers really being a 'need' is when you combine 100% suppressed use with a short barrel and very high volumes of fire. Very few people check all of those boxes.

Also, piston ARs are very proprietary - not just to piston vs direct gas, but between piston companies. Very few - if any - parts on the gas piston system for one brand will fit another, with the sole exception being a couple of licensing agreements. Even then, you're going to have a MUCH harder time finding spare or replacement parts except direct from the manufacturer.
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Old 04-30-2013, 17:14   #46
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So I'm buying my first AR next month from my LGS... Any suggestions? Appreciate the input.
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Stay away from Bushmaster, quality has been sub-par for years. Good reliable M4/AR platforms in No specific order:
Colt
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DD
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Windham Weaponry
Sig Sauer

The HK is VERY expensive and not very easy to find.




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Stay away from Bushmaster, quality has been sub-par for years. Good reliable M4/AR platforms in No specific order:
Colt
BCM
DD
Noveske
LaRue
Windham Weaponry
Sig Sauer

The HK is VERY expensive and not very easy to find.




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Thanks a lot you helped a lot. Think i settled on a colt 6920.

Originally I was like BUSHMASHTER YAY but now... Bush is the readheaded step child


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Stay away from Bushmaster, quality has been sub-par for years. Good reliable M4/AR platforms in No specific order:
Colt
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DD
Noveske
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Windham Weaponry
Sig Sauer

The HK is VERY expensive and not very easy to find.




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I'd stay away from Windham Weaponry and Sig, especially Sig. You left out Spikes and KAC, especially Spikes considering that will be an affordable option. The HK MR556 is a PIG, heavy, especially nose heavy with a quirky take down mechanism. I'm sure their piston system is reliable and durable (probably the only reliable/durable piston system except maybe LWRC), but unnecessary. If the OP wants a piston driven gun, I'll recommend the SCAR 16s.
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Can't go wrong with a Colt....I have two. I've built 4 others and used no Colt parts. They all work great and good parts make a good gun. A friend of mine just bought a S&W and it seems like a nice rifle but I have not shot it yet, Mike.
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Thanks a lot you helped a lot. Think i settled on a colt 6920.

Originally I was like BUSHMASHTER YAY but now... Bush is the readheaded step child


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I'd stay away from Windham Weaponry and Sig, especially Sig. You left out Spikes and KAC, especially Spikes considering that will be an affordable option. The HK MR556 is a PIG, heavy, especially nose heavy with a quirky take down mechanism. I'm sure their piston system is reliable and durable (probably the only reliable/durable piston system except maybe LWRC), but unnecessary. If the OP wants a piston driven gun, I'll recommend the SCAR 16s.
I own a WW and a SigM400. Both have been as reliable as my Colts, DD, and LWRC so far. I would not hesitate to give the Colt a break from duty and replace it with either WW or my Sig, both great guns.

OP, great choice with the Colt6920. It's a proven reliable rifle and very well known. Also comes with all the proper mil-spek, and tested parts. Great decision, enjoy!


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Settled on the 6920. Now just need l find one that isn't a RIDICULOUS price. My LGS is $1799.

Might wait it out a few months.


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Settled on the 6920. Now just need l find one that isn't a RIDICULOUS price. My LGS is $1799.

Might wait it out a few months.


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If your LGS will do a transfer, shoot me a pm. They can be had for less than $1100 at my local shop with Magpul MOE if you are interested.


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