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Old 05-06-2013, 16:14   #21
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Ya they are still Mass holes. SJ 40
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Old 05-06-2013, 17:35   #22
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Almost applied for a Utah out of state carry permit just to get a few other states. I wish a few more states would honor our permits...not sure what the deal is but there must be a small difference in the qualifications along with Minnesota being a bit "snooty" and not honoring others.

WHile Mn. was rated 43rd(?) on the ranking list it doesn't seem TOO bad here. You need a permit to purchase a handgun but that doesn't take long to get since they shifted the issuing from the chiefs of police to the sherrifs. I had my permit to carry in less than two weeks after applying...not bad. While we don't have constitutional carry, the permit we get for carrying in public is just that, a permit to carry. It doesn't matter if it prints, happens to get exposed, or worn openly. You don't have to worry about it showing at all except for getting some liberals' shorts in a bundle.. Posted signs carry a petty misdomeanor charge and a fine of $25. Not that I would disobey one but in our neighboring state of Wi. the fines and penalties are much worse for missing a sign. Our castle doctrine bill failed year before last but the way the democrats are raising taxes here (if everything goes through, we'll be the 3rd highest in the nation) the legislature has a good chance of returning to republican hands and we should get it through.

All in all, it could be better....but it also could be a hell of a lot worse.
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Old 05-06-2013, 17:53   #23
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Vt. is gun friendly with low homicide rate

This from the Barre Times in todays paper.


Vermont’s relationship with guns was highlighted this year when the magazine Guns & Ammo published a survey that ranked the 50 states and the District of Colombia for their friendliness to gun owners. Arizona and Vermont, which frequently find themselves on opposite ends of the political spectrum, ranked one-two as the most gun friendly states, with nearly perfect scores.

There are no restrictions in Vermont on the use of concealed weapons or magazine sizes and the ability to buy assault rifles. The survey said the only reason Vermont didn’t get a perfect score was because the state didn’t have a “stand your ground” law that broadens the conditions under which people are allowed to use deadly force to protect themselves.

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Old 05-06-2013, 21:52   #24
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Vt. is gun friendly with low homicide rate

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Vermont’s relationship with guns was highlighted this year when the magazine Guns & Ammo published a survey that ranked the 50 states and the District of Colombia for their friendliness to gun owners. Arizona and Vermont, which frequently find themselves on opposite ends of the political spectrum, ranked one-two as the most gun friendly states, with nearly perfect scores.

There are no restrictions in Vermont on the use of concealed weapons or magazine sizes and the ability to buy assault rifles. The survey said the only reason Vermont didn’t get a perfect score was because the state didn’t have a “stand your ground” law that broadens the conditions under which people are allowed to use deadly force to protect themselves.

http://www.timesargus.com/article/20...705069911/1003

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SJ 40,

I thought for sure you were doing to mention Patrick Leahy as the reason for a #2 rating.

I did my undergraduate in Johnson VT, enjoy the beer from Rock Art in Morrisville and Long Trail in Killington as well as a mountain of skiing in West Dover. I miss the now out-of-businesses of Catamount and Cernilgia (Woodchuck). I have a love for VT, but am concerned about a number of social/political issues otherwise I'd be there right now with ya.
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Old 05-07-2013, 06:53   #25
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I thought for sure you were doing to mention Patrick Leahy as the reason for a #2 rating.

I did my undergraduate in Johnson VT, enjoy the beer from Rock Art in Morrisville and Long Trail in Killington as well as a mountain of skiing in West Dover. I miss the now out-of-businesses of Catamount and Cernilgia (Woodchuck). I have a love for VT, but am concerned about a number of social/political issues otherwise I'd be there right now with ya.
You are correct IMO,all three of our federal representatives need replacement and at the Top is Leaky Leahy. SJ 40
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With the exception of open carry, FL isn't bad. And you can OC if your hunting fishing or camping.
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Old 05-07-2013, 08:02   #27
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Funny how incrementalism works, and even people who are informed tend to settle into what they've got.

I'm as guilty as anyone. I Intelectually know that things could be much better in Minnesota, but over the years, tend to get comfortable with things the way they are and accept that it's "not too bad".

This legislative session many, many, gun owners showed up at the capitol to testify and protest the implementation of ANY new gun laws. Myself included. We have plenty of laws already on the books. I think a "wall" has been hit at gun owners are aware that enough is enough. Something the left will never understand but it won't stop them from trying.
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Old 05-08-2013, 18:50   #28
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I've lived in AZ for nearly 5 years. After coming from Cali it was a night and day difference; open carry and being able to walk out of the local gun shop with an AR in 10mins, not 10 days.

We now have constitutional carry. Tis truly a great state. Now if we can only get rid of McPain. I'd vote Sheriff Joe if he were to ever run!
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