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Old 05-15-2013, 20:22   #21
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Sure I'd carry it.

Now use Winchester T series 127gr +p+ but you do know the first rule of gunfighting is to have a gun, right?

Well the corollary of that rule is it must be loaded.

So it may not be the greatest JHP but it will do.

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Old 05-15-2013, 20:22   #22
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The Federal Hydra Shok is an older technology and has had cases where the orifice got clogged and the bullet failed to expand. The HST is a much better load. BTW, the rounds in the video are not Hydra Shoks. The Federal Hydra Shok bullet is easy to identify due to the lead post in the center of the hollow nose.
Agreed.

Any Gold Dot, HST or Ranger-T in your preferred bullet weight should serve you well. I'm partial to the 124gr Gold Dot +p load myself.

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Old 05-15-2013, 20:30   #23
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In all honesty I don't feel awkward carrying FMJ. Any hollowpoint is going to be better than that.
Just to be clear... I'm assuming you carry a .45?
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Old 05-15-2013, 20:51   #24
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I'm partial to the 124gr Gold Dot +p load myself.
To date my biggest ammo regret is the failure to pick up the Speer 124-grain Gold Dot +P when it was offered on multiple Internet ammo sites at $24/box of 50.
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To date my biggest ammo regret is the failure to pick up the Speer 124-grain Gold Dot +P when it was offered on multiple Internet ammo sites at $24/box of 50.
I paid about $34 per 50
Even at that price I wish I'd have bought more when I had the opportunity.
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I paid about $34 per 50
Even at that price I wish I'd have bought more when I had the opportunity.
I know the "best" self-defense ammo is always a subject of debate but in 9mm I think it's safe to say that Speer 124-grain Gold Dot +P is considered the default standard by which all other self-defense JHP ammos are measured.
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Just to be clear... I'm assuming you carry a .45?
.22 Short, .32 ACP, .40 S&W, .45 ACP, whatever I grab and depending on what I'm wearing.
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Old 05-16-2013, 04:47   #28
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I know the "best" self-defense ammo is always a subject of debate but in 9mm I think it's safe to say that Speer 124-grain Gold Dot +P is considered the default standard by which all other self-defense JHP ammos are measured.
I'm not sure when this was written or by whom.



9mm Parabellum (9mm Luger,9x19mm, 9mm NATO, or simply "9mm")
This is unquestionably the world's most popular pistol round. For this reason it has been the subject of a lot of experimentation, because 9mm ball - used by every army in the Western world - is a mediocre manstopper. Jacketed hollowpoints are a must if one wishes to rely on the 9mm as a defense round. Use ball ammo for practice only.
9mm ammunition is available in two pressure levels: standard and "+P." The latter should only be used in newer guns (made since 1985 or so), and is best used sparingly. I will deal here with only commercially available ammunition: there are specialized loads available only to law enforcement personnel. Civilians should not worry, as there are commercial loads as good or better than anything restricted to law enforcement usage.
I will now tell you the best 9mm Luger load for self-defense: it is the Cor-Bon 9mm 115 grain +P Jacketed Hollowpoint. This is the most powerful and street-proven manstopper available in this caliber. It is a high velocity (1340 fps) and high pressure round, and more effective than any load restricted to law enforcement use (such as the Federal 9BPLE).
The best standard pressure 9mm load is the Federal 115 grain JHP (9BP). Its effectiveness and accuracy make it the world standard. Buy several boxes. Other excellent standard pressure 9mm loads are the Winchester Silvertip 115 grain (X9MMSHP), and Federal 124 grain Hydra-shok (P9HS1).
For guns that may jam with the Cor-Bon or Federal 115 grain hollow-points, the Remington 115 grain +P JHP is a good choice (R9MM6). For older guns I would use the Remington standard pressure 115 gr. JHP (R9MM1).
Now it is time to impart some crucial information: NEVER use 147 grain ammo in a 9mm pistol! There was a stupid fad for 147 grain hollowpoints a few years ago, and many were suckered into buying these weak, worthless and malfunction-prone rounds. I don't care what you've heard: never use any 9mm hollowpoint heavier than 125 grains. 147 grain hollowpoints often jam in many popular 9mm guns like the Browning Hi-Power, SIG, Beretta 92, S&W and Glock. Ignore the gun magazine hype and stick to what works. If you want to gamble, go to Reno. Don't gamble with your life. 147 grain ammo sucks.
Bad 9mm Loads to avoid (and certainly NEVER carry). Numbers given:
Federal Gold Medal 9mm 147 grain JHP (9MS)
Federal Hydra-Shok 9mm 147 grain JHP (P9HS2)
Winchester 147 grain 9mm Silvertip Subsonic JHP (X9MMST147)
Winchester 147 grain 9mm Super-X Subsonic (XSUB9MM)
Remington 147 grain 9mm JHP (R9MM8)
Remington 147 grain 9mm Golden Saber JHP (GS9MMC)
Remington 140 grain 9mm JHP (R9MM7)
Remington 88 grain 9mm JHP (R9MM5) This bullet is far too light.
CCI Lawman 147 grain 9mm PHP "Plated Hollow Point" (3619)
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