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Old 05-28-2013, 21:47   #51
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I sold the old Wingmaster my father gave me. I had no use for it.

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First off it is a sentimental value gun from his father so I doubt he wants to sell it.
Second there is nothing wrong with using it as a home defense weapon. Don't have to add anything to it either.
A 20" barrel is fine and the 18" won't make it any better or worse.
Easy to add an extension if that makes you feel any better.
4+1 is still pretty awesome in a 12g shotgun.
The only difference will be the older gun can only fire 2 3/4" shells where the newer gun will fire the bigger shells.
Big deal.
The 2 3/4 are fine and have less blast and kick to them.
If money is the issue you will be fine using the old gun.
Someday you can get the Police but for now you are good with the old wing master.
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Old 05-28-2013, 23:00   #52
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You may regret that one day.


Buying a second shotgun as you noted, is often cheaper than the second barrel.

Finding a used 870 or Mossberg 500 isn't THAT hard. I've found them for as little as $150 before tax. And not beat to hell either.
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Old 05-29-2013, 04:40   #53
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FYI, in case anybody got confused as the OP I did NOT sell my Dad's Wingmaster and never would either. Besides, my Dad would kill me if I ever did!!
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Old 05-29-2013, 07:03   #54
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I sold the old Wingmaster my father gave me. I had no use for it.
You recommended getting a 870 police, yet you sold your father's Wingmaster? Why? If you didn't like how it was configured, you can change it. Take the wood stock off and store it away, and put on a speedfeed stock and whatever forend you like, if you want it set up that way.

The only thing the newer 870 police offers over an older Wingmaster is the flexi tab, and to me that is not enough to bypass the older Wingmasters.
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Old 05-30-2013, 21:36   #55
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You recommended getting a 870 police, yet you sold your father's Wingmaster? Why? If you didn't like how it was configured, you can change it. Take the wood stock off and store it away, and put on a speedfeed stock and whatever forend you like, if you want it set up that way.

The only thing the newer 870 police offers over an older Wingmaster is the flexi tab, and to me that is not enough to bypass the older Wingmasters.
I thought hard about modifying the Wingmaster. It had a 28" barrel. It really made more sense for me to just sell the Wingmaster and get a used 870P. After adding the Surefire I have a total of $460 into this set up.

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Old 05-31-2013, 07:07   #56
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I thought hard about modifying the Wingmaster. It had a 28" barrel. It really made more sense for me to just sell the Wingmaster and get a used 870P. After adding the Surefire I have a total of $460 into this set up.

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I figure you could have added the speedfeed stock and had dad's barrel cut down, drilled, and tapped and bead replaced for $150 to $175. Bet that is less than what you paid for the 870P?

I have one of my dad's guns. I could never sell it. But I have a disorder where I won't sell any guns.
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Old 05-31-2013, 07:25   #57
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That's why I took my barrel to my neighbor's machine shop... Yep, I chopped an 30", full choked barrel. Haven't regretted it one bit either.

Maybe you can find a used barrel, or a whole gun for a good price at a pawn shop.

Cut my 30" full choke barrel off with a hack saw. Still works great.
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Old 06-16-2013, 23:05   #58
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jd-do you know what the remington parts numbers are for those 3 items and/or do you stock them??

thank you very much
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Old 06-16-2013, 23:42   #59
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Flex tab system, slide, carrier and bolt - Remington part number F93339

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Breech Bolt assembly F93915 (police)
Carrier Assembly F102190
Slide F401023

I think these numbers are correct might want to check with JD just to confirm.
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Old 06-17-2013, 16:22   #60
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thanks BOOM-steve
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Old 06-18-2013, 08:43   #61
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I sold the old Wingmaster my father gave me. I had no use for it.
That's fine as long as you did what you wanted to do.
My humble opinion is this...
Nothing feels better than an old and well used Wingmaster.

$460.00 into the new gun. How much did you get for the old gun?
Hopefully at least $200.00.
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Old 06-21-2013, 14:19   #62
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What cops did for years and years is called transition to sidearm, because the shotgun is now useless...

Aippi I saw that a lot during qualifications and scenario based training too. We used to have monthly stress shoots. Honestly, after we did that for a while and everyone put more rounds through the shotguns, proficiency improved a lot. Then we traded for 11-87's.

Rutgersgrad, I just bough a new 870p this week, model 24407. I would be totally uninterested in an express model. The 870p is far superior. That being said I wish I had the wingmaster I bought in 1968 back again. But if I had it, it would be for limited use, and treated like a prize possession.
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Old 06-22-2013, 08:00   #63
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Think about it: If you should ever find yourself in a situation that requires you to "use" your shotgun, would you prefer the Police haul off your store bought 870 or the one your Dad gave you?

**Edit** Just now read that you sold it. You'll regret that. I regret getting rid of the guns my dad gave me.

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What cops did for years and years is called transition to sidearm, because the shotgun is now useless...

Aippi I saw that a lot during qualifications and scenario based training too. We used to have monthly stress shoots. Honestly, after we did that for a while and everyone put more rounds through the shotguns, proficiency improved a lot. Then we traded for 11-87's.

Rutgersgrad, I just bough a new 870p this week, model 24407. I would be totally uninterested in an express model. The 870p is far superior. That being said I wish I had the wingmaster I bought in 1968 back again. But if I had it, it would be for limited use, and treated like a prize possession.

I actually decided to get a 870P and I love it too . And in case anybody got me confused with another poster on this thread I did not sell my Dad's old Wingmaster. I had my reasons why I decided to get an 870P and I'm happy in my choice For one, my Dad probably wouldn't like if I made any modifications to it so I figured I might as well leave it as is and get my own in the config that I want.

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Old 06-23-2013, 11:18   #65
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Think about it: If you should ever find yourself in a situation that requires you to "use" your shotgun, would you prefer the Police haul off your store bought 870 or the one your Dad gave you?

**Edit** Just now read that you sold it. You'll regret that. I regret getting rid of the guns my dad gave me.

I honestly never understood this thinking? You see it a lot in the 1911 forums. If I am ever involved in a shooting (and survive) where the gun ends up and in what condition I get it back in (if ever) is of no concern to me. If I get a rusted hulk of a 1911 back and it's engraved and stamped with property numbers so be it. That gun has served it's purpose and deserves a place on my wall or desk. I'm sure if I used a weapon passed on to me my dad would rest well knowing it protected me and my family, not that it's sitting in a room somewhere...
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Old 06-23-2013, 12:08   #66
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A new 870 will be a downgrade...
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I'd rather have the 44 year old Wingmaster with the 20" barrel than a brand new 870P.
OP, these are your answers right here.
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Old 06-23-2013, 12:09   #67
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Flex tab system, slide, carrier and bolt - Remington part number F93339

Separate

Breech Bolt assembly F93915 (police)
Carrier Assembly F102190
Slide F401023

I think these numbers are correct might want to check with JD just to confirm.

Correct parts. The Breech bolt is $100, the carrier $20 and the slide is $22. So total is $142. Now the killer.... the flex tab conversion kit with all three parts is F93339 and is $87 but is LE restricted. Yet some guys have been lucky and got the right cubical clown to sell them one. Brownells list the kit for $99 but seems to always be sold out. So if Brownells can sell the kit to civilains Remington should.
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Old 06-28-2013, 12:29   #68
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I went to a gun store in Jackson Michigan 2 days ago and asked them about a 870p. The first guy didn't know anything about 870 police models. However the other guy that came out was a retried cop. He knew more about them then I did. He found one at one of their distributors for a retail 810. He sold it to me for 740 plus tax. So I ordered it and hopefully will see it next week. The one I got had the mag ex, rifle sights, and reg but stock with recoil pad. I will add a Mesa stock later. Ron
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Old 06-28-2013, 21:06   #69
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Looks like the prices on 870P are creeping up.
On top of that the new flexi-tab kit is nearly impossible to find and I've heard the rumours that Remington is classifying this kit as LE part only these days. So if You are planning to buy the older Wingmaster and modify it later with the flexi-tab kit...it may be difficult to accomplish actually.
I just bought a complete 3" Wingmaster receiver from the early 90's already equipped in the flexi-tab. High gloss stock and forend. That will be my next build...or skeet gun, since a friend of mine is trying to get me into this sport.
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Old 07-10-2013, 22:14   #70
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My 870P came in today. It took 2 Weeks to get it, but it was worth it. I'm looking at adding a Knoxx stock later maybe. The other 870P that I could have ordered had the Knoxx stock but were 5 shot tubes. So I went for the 7 shot, then I can add the Knoxx stock later. Ron
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