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Old 06-17-2013, 08:54   #21
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Target 168 grain A-max over Varget.

M14 - 147 grain fmj or 168 grain matchking over H4895

Never worked up a hunting load... I hunt with a .30-06 or .44 lever gun.


...but I would agree with the others that Federal GMM is the gold standard for precision .308 factory rounds.
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Old 06-17-2013, 13:14   #22
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Cool, thanks everyone
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Old 06-17-2013, 13:24   #23
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Here's my GMM 175 gr clone load.

175 gr SMK
2.24" comparator length
COL 2.8"
45 gr Varget

I chrono it at: 2655 (sd=8 fps)

I can get good hits out to 1200 yds with that load. My experience is that the 175s are more stable than the 168s as they go transonic.
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Old 06-17-2013, 13:39   #24
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SCAR 17 in FDE.
Wow that must be expensive rifle! How did yo like your SCAR 17?
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Old 06-17-2013, 13:45   #25
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Here's my GMM 175 gr clone load.

175 gr SMK
2.24" comparator length
COL 2.8"
45 gr Varget

I chrono it at: 2655 (sd=8 fps)

I can get good hits out to 1200 yds with that load. My experience is that the 175s are more stable than the 168s as they go transonic.
Dayum. You are 3.3 grains over max according to Sierra's data, and a full grain over max in Hornady's data for 168 grain bullets.



Careful, Amigo.
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Old 06-17-2013, 14:22   #26
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Dayum. You are 3.3 grains over max according to Sierra's data, and a full grain over max in Hornady's data for 168 grain bullets.



Careful, Amigo.
No pressure signs (in Win or Fed brass). Many of my fellow shooters use the same load.

Check Hodgdon's data. 45 grains is their max load for 175 gr bullets.
175 GR. SIE HPBT 45.0C 2690 48,600 CUP
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Old 06-17-2013, 14:29   #27
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Ok thanks, I'm just getting back into bolt actions (haven't used one since boy scouts lol) and picking up a Ruger American this week. I have some Magtech ordered to try out, think it was 150gr.
I hope you enjoy your American.

I recently bought a Ruger American, I mounted a Bushnell Trophy 3-9x40mm scope on it. So far I've just shot paper with it, I like the rifle (and the scope) it's pretty accurate.

I shot Remington 180 Grain, I think.

I'm disabled so I don't get out to hunt much, but maybe next year, we'll see.

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Old 06-17-2013, 14:38   #28
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I love the American, after sighting it in...it was 1" groups for the day. Barrel heat was an issue after 6 or so...shots would wander off about 3-4 inches. Other than that, it's a wicked good rifle. Of course you're gonna have the polymer hating crowd...its ok with me.
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No pressure signs (in Win or Fed brass). Many of my fellow shooters use the same load.

Check Hodgdon's data. 45 grains is their max load for 175 gr bullets.
175 GR. SIE HPBT 45.0C 2690 48,600 CUP
45 grains just sounded like a pile, and got me to looking...

If it's working for you, great. I've seen clear pressure signs at 44 grains with 168's.

I suppose that rather than drive a .308 that hard, I'd shoot 1,200 yards with a .300 mag, but that's me. Like I said, just be careful.

Cheers.
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45 grains just sounded like a pile, and got me to looking...

If it's working for you, great. I've seen clear pressure signs at 44 grains with 168's.

I suppose that rather than drive a .308 that hard, I'd shoot 1,200 yards with a .300 mag, but that's me. Like I said, just be careful.

Cheers.
Yeah, I wouldn't pick a .308 at 1200 either unless a course of fire required it. That's why I've mostly switched to .260 Rem. But it's a good sign that a load will stay stable out that far, so that's why I mentioned it.

175 SMK over 45 of Varget is at an optimal charge weight node, so you don't even have to be that careful about being super-exact with the powder weight.
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Old 06-17-2013, 15:15   #31
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Ruger International carbine, with a Mannlicher stock. Plenty accurate for hunting, and the stock is just a beauty!
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Old 06-17-2013, 18:42   #32
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Well, I am a 7mm rem mag guy, BUT, in .308 I like the Hornady Interlock BT SP, 150gr, and of my own hand loading, NOT factory ammo. I run them at about 2750 at the muzzle.

I use the same 150gr interlock for the 7mm rem mag, in my own handloads not factory.


Good for rabbits to moose ! haha. ( a bit much for rabbits) but ya get my drift. ! It, in 308, is plenty for elk /moose, i assure you ! Factory or not.....


Good hunting.







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Old 06-17-2013, 22:01   #33
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I actually have two 308s, the FNAR above and a 3Caliber Corner or 4 decades old Remington Varmint Master. I had a fixed 10 power el paso Weaver on it for years. it lately gave up the ghost and I replaced it with a fixed 12 x Leupold FX-3 target rifle scope on it.
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Old 06-18-2013, 20:45   #34
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Rem M700SS R5 Milspec stainless bolt gun.
-I shoot Federal Gold Medal Match 175 (the weight the barrel was designed for) at paper
-For hunting, my favorite is the Barnes Vortex TTSX (tipped triple shock.)
That bullet is all copper and it expands really well.
-I also like the Nosler Custom 165 gr Bonded Trophy Accubond.
-Federal's Vital Shok trophy w/ the 165 bear claw Game King.

I have a saiga .308 as well, it eats anything greedily. I mostly use cheap Russian ammo in that. Although my groups improve a lot when I put FGMM in the Saiga,
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Old 06-19-2013, 21:43   #35
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Rem 700. Leopold vx.
Federal Fusion 165 gr.

It is accurate, and impressive with retained weight. I shot a front quartering shot on a deer and it went through some bone, tissue, and ended up in the hide near the rear. It had a retained weight of 134 grains and looked fairly well intact. Any thing I have shot with it has dropped immediately.
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Old 06-20-2013, 02:16   #36
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Load is;
Winchester Brass
Federal 210
44.4gr Varget @ 2600FPS on the money
175gr SMK
2.800" OAL

Shoots 3/4" @ 100yds all day long and even tighter on a semi regular basis.

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Old 06-20-2013, 02:19   #37
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DPMS 308 LR AP4 & Kel-tec RFB, like both for different reasons. RFB extremely compact. AP4 lower recoil & quicker follow up shots.

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