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Old 09-06-2013, 05:48   #1
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Detroit suspends and files charges against dispatchers

LeDuff: 911 dispatcher suspended, woman shot while waiting for police

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Old 09-06-2013, 06:09   #2
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I've seen where they are thinking of filling charges, but I haven't seen what charges they were thinking of listed anywhere.

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Old 09-06-2013, 07:00   #3
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It's like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

Dust off and nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
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Old 09-06-2013, 07:44   #4
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dispatchers here in Dade county, act like they are friends with the criminals, buying time for them.
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dispatchers here in Dade county, act like they are friends with the criminals, buying time for them.
We had a prosecutor not long ago fire a warning shot to her friends about the po-po being on their way to serve a warrant.
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Old 09-06-2013, 08:55   #6
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So the police chief suspends 2 dispatchers, for not sending officers immediately, even though there were no available officers.

The police supervisor in charge of the dispatch center was demoted.

Shouldn't his next step be to discipline himself, for not having enough officers available to cover emergency calls?
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So the police chief suspends 2 dispatchers, for not sending officers immediately, even though there were no available officers.

The police supervisor in charge of the dispatch center was demoted.

Shouldn't his next step be to discipline himself, for not having enough officers available to cover emergency calls?
The article says the chief claimed he had officers available to take calls.
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FOX 2's Charlie LeDuff says a woman who feared for her safety called 911 six times, but the dispatcher waited more than an hour to send officers to the dispute. LeDuff says by the time officers arrived the woman was shot by a man armed with an AK-47. She is now listed in critical condition.

Craig said police units were available when the 911 calls were made.


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Old 09-06-2013, 16:12   #9
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We had a prosecutor not long ago fire a warning shot to her friends about the po-po being on their way to serve a warrant.
They told us never to fire warning shots in the academy... Guess the prosecutors academy didn't cover that...

Seems like I remember heating about that, either in the paper or maybe here...

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So anyone have any idea what sort of charges might apply? Dereliction of duty isn't a criminal offense, right? If they're talking with the prosecutor it must be a criminal offense they are charging... Isn't that a stretch for some sort of criminal negligence?

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I am having a hard time seeing how, in a condition of almost anarchy, certainly constant chaos at least, that people have any expectations in that pest hole.

"shuffling the deck chairs on the Titanic" Is almost apropos but I would add "underwater" to the description.
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The article says the chief claimed he had officers available to take calls.
I'm sure the Chief has his heart in the right place, and would NEVER lie to cover his own stinking butt.

I would like to see an interview with the dispatchers. As usual, I suspect there is more to this than meets the eye.
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So anyone have any idea what sort of charges might apply? Dereliction of duty isn't a criminal offense, right? If they're talking with the prosecutor it must be a criminal offense they are charging... Isn't that a stretch for some sort of criminal negligence?
Cops can't be charged for this sort of thing, but maybe dispatchers don't have the same lack of legal obligation to help people.

Or maybe the case would end up in court and a judge saying neither cops nor dispatchers have to help anyone.


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Criminal negligence? Aiding and abetting while ignoring your job? I don't know. I've lived through uncountable incompetent dispatchers.
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I'm sure the Chief has his heart in the right place, and would NEVER lie to cover his own stinking butt.

I would like to see an interview with the dispatchers. As usual, I suspect there is more to this than meets the eye.
Chief is really new, hasn't been there long enough to worry about that, he could throw the last chief under the bus...

Something weird going on, that's for sure.

Radio system went down for the 2nd time in a few months here recently, some heads rolled over that one. Don't recall hearing about any failures before these 2 times.
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Once they started recording all transmissions most of our problems stopped. Just goes to show how lazy and incompetent some folks are until they are held responsible for their actions.
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Seems like its been tolerated, based upon some of the other incidents that have occurred. Let's see if things change as a result of his actions....... I wish him luck....
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So the police chief suspends 2 dispatchers, for not sending officers immediately, even though there were no available officers.

The police supervisor in charge of the dispatch center was demoted.

Shouldn't his next step be to discipline himself, for not having enough officers available to cover emergency calls?
I do not know their dispatch policies, but in my AO, if it is in progress or a violent crime, the traffic gets kicked out via voice immediately. The officers, then the supervisors, are responsible for breaking from whatever they are doing that is lower in priority and answering the call. If all officers are busy on priority calls, the supervisors better start taking them and then the managers after that. Everything else goes out of the MDC as soon as it can be entered into the system.


"Police supervisor"? That could be a sworn officer or a non-sworn employee - the article doesn't clarify. Here, the dispatch supervisor is responsible for only the people within the dispatch section, not in field ops or in investigations.
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I do not know their dispatch policies, but in my AO, if it is in progress or a violent crime, the traffic gets kicked out via voice immediately. The officers, then the supervisors, are responsible for breaking from whatever they are doing that is lower in priority and answering the call. If all officers are busy on priority calls, the supervisors better start taking them and then the managers after that. Everything else goes out of the MDC as soon as it can be entered into the system.


"Police supervisor"? That could be a sworn officer or a non-sworn employee - the article doesn't clarify. Here, the dispatch supervisor is responsible for only the people within the dispatch section, not in field ops or in investigations.
I saw another article that said it was some sort of brass, I don't remember the exact rank. So I'm assuming that meant sworn.

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