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Old 02-14-2014, 11:05   #1
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Anonymous Browsing?

What's the 'best', free, easiest, anonymous browsing service a person can use?

I'm presently using FireFox 27 the most... don't like Chrome.
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I don't use Firefox, but I think you've confused two different things... I'm not sure how a browser could offer truly "anonymous" browsing.

Private Browsing (or Google Calls it "Incognito Mode").. is not really "Anonymous Browsing"... It simply opens a browser and deletes it's cache when you close it.. thus not saving any history, passwords, usernames, etc.. on your local machine. It is NOT "anonymous". Any server you hook to, still has your IP address, etc.

Anonymous browsing, is when you connect to a VPN or proxy, which encrypts your traffic thus hiding your IP address from whatever you are connecting to.

Example:
Your Machine<---Encrypted----> VPN/Proxy<--Public IP-->Internet

When the "Internet" responds (be it a website, download, or whatever).. It will actually see the IP address of the VPN or Proxy service.... and due to the encrypted connection you have to the VPN or Proxy, will not see an accurate IP on "Your Machine".

Sorry if I misunderstood, but I think you're referring to Firefox's private browsing, which is absolutely NOT anonymous browsing.
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Old 02-14-2014, 11:48   #3
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Anonymous browsing, is when you connect to a VPN or proxy, which encrypts your traffic thus hiding your IP address from whatever you are connecting to.

Example:
Your Machine<---Encrypted----> VPN/Proxy<--Public IP-->Internet

When the "Internet" responds (be it a website, download, or whatever).. It will actually see the IP address of the VPN or Proxy service.... and due to the encrypted connection you have to the VPN or Proxy, will not see an accurate IP on "Your Machine".

Sorry if I misunderstood, but I think you're referring to Firefox's private browsing, which is absolutely NOT anonymous browsing.
Sorry for the confusion... I am referring to "Anonymous browsing", such as using 'Anonymouse.org', etc, where the visited website only sees their IP and not mine.
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Sorry for the confusion... I am referring to "Anonymous browsing", such as using 'Anonymouse.org', etc, where the visited website only sees their IP and not mine.
Only problem with those, is they are slow (at least the ones I've used). Obviously that's part of the price for being free. I tried several free Proxy's, and they were all different levels of terrible.

I know you said free, but if you change your mind.. for $40/yr this was WELL worth it. I've been quite happy with it.

https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/

I don't run it 24/7 like some.. so I simply set it up, and when I want to be "private" I connect via network manager, which encrypts all traffic from my PC. After I'm done doing what I'm doing.. I just disconnect from the VPN and go back to my normal network connection.

Been very happy w/ this solution.
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If you visit websites and use Java Run Time Environment, and possibly some other browser plug-ins, on them your true IP address will appear there, even if going through a proxy server.
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If you visit websites and use Java Run Time Environment, and possibly some other browser plug-ins, on them your true IP address will appear there, even if going through a proxy server.
Well, damn... that messes things up a bit, doesn't it. There's always a fly in the ointment, eh?

Thanks for the suggestion, IndyGunFreak.

Maybe I'm thinking up the wrong alley here, you guys tell me...

The bug up my ass might be a dumb/paranoid one, but it really irks me that some sites, including our lovely goobernment, try to track and ID you with personal information along with your IP address. ObamaCare'Less' is a great example, from what I understand, but there are a zillion others, I'm sure. With OC it's bad enough that they have ZERO security of personal information. But if they also track IP addresses and match that to your personal info, any hacking would result in a complete profile package... or won't that make any difference???

So how do you effectively visit these types of web sites if you need to without leaving all the tracks and crumbs that lead them right to you?

Your examples above indicate that while I might be using an anonymous path with my browser, the other softwares like Java, et al, mess thing up behind your back.

I swear that any and all actions I'm referring to are strictly legal ones. NO shenanigans involved, anywhere! I promise.


Thoughts and suggestions welcome.

Thanks.
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Well, damn... that messes things up a bit, doesn't it. There's always a fly in the ointment, eh?

Thanks for the suggestion, IndyGunFreak.

Maybe I'm thinking up the wrong alley here, you guys tell me...

The bug up my ass might be a dumb/paranoid one, but it really irks me that some sites, including our lovely goobernment, try to track and ID you with personal information along with your IP address. ObamaCare'Less' is a great example, from what I understand, but there are a zillion others, I'm sure. With OC it's bad enough that they have ZERO security of personal information. But if they also track IP addresses and match that to your personal info, any hacking would result in a complete profile package... or won't that make any difference???

So how do you effectively visit these types of web sites if you need to without leaving all the tracks and crumbs that lead them right to you?

Your examples above indicate that while I might be using an anonymous path with my browser, the other softwares like Java, et al, mess thing up behind your back.

I swear that any and all actions I'm referring to are strictly legal ones. NO shenanigans involved, anywhere! I promise.


Thoughts and suggestions welcome.

Thanks.

My thoughts and suggestions: Don't waste your time.

Its possible. Its very possible. You can set the appropriate settings right from your computer then use a quality proxy service located in another country (that you will pay for, but not too much) and they'll never see your IP, don't care what Java or other programs you have.

But its a huge pain in the ass and can cause all kinds of cool things that you take for granted on the internet to not function properly.

Now, if you had a few sites that you just wanted there to be no record of you ever visiting, a regular group of sites, for example, thats more practical of an issue to tackle than trying to just secretimify your web browsing. But, if this describes you....well...um...I just hope it doesn't.
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If you want to conceal your IP address using a proxy sever you could disable you browser plug-ins. You could even have two different browsers, one with plug-ins and another, different browser, without plug-ins. Otherwise using Java or other plug-ins will show your true IP address and it likely wouldn't be possibly to conceal your IP address while using plug-ins. Pluh-ins usually start automatically on websites that use them but if possible you might be able to manually enable and disable them for each web page. I think a browser add-on called, "No-Script" makes this possible and gives you control when set up properly.
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So how do you effectively visit these types of web sites if you need to without leaving all the tracks and crumbs that lead them right to you?

Your examples above indicate that while I might be using an anonymous path with my browser, the other softwares like Java, et al, mess thing up behind your back.

Thanks.
I've never heard of that with Java and other plugins, but it does make sense.

In that case, your only option would be to use a VPN. There are some free VPN's out there, but I'm not sure what their performance is like (my guess is, not great).
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You can test it this way. Use a proxy server, go to a Java based chat room that shows users' IP addresses or shows you your IP address when you log in. Java will pick up your true IP addres and display it through a proxy server.

Even when you aren't logged on a website that shows you it has registered your IP address, if it has any Java applications running on the website, they will pick up your true IP address and the website will have recorded your true IP address, if you have Java installed and enabled. Other browser plug-ins are also capable doing this.
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My thoughts and suggestions: Don't waste your time.

Its possible. Its very possible. You can set the appropriate settings right from your computer then use a quality proxy service located in another country (that you will pay for, but not too much) and they'll never see your IP, don't care what Java or other programs you have.

But its a huge pain in the ass and can cause all kinds of cool things that you take for granted on the internet to not function properly.

Now, if you had a few sites that you just wanted there to be no record of you ever visiting, a regular group of sites, for example, thats more practical of an issue to tackle than trying to just secretimify your web browsing. But, if this describes you....well...um...I just hope it doesn't.
I'm not sure I get what you're implying as there's nothing surreptitious, unethical, immoral, or illegal in my intent. I just don't like offering all of my personal, medical, and financial information to be openly tied to my IP and "free for the taking"... or that some government 'hack', such as the criminals OC has hired as customer reps to have full access to same. I need to get my wife some insurance and don't care to jeopardize everything in doing so.

Now why would you "hope that isn't me"??? Please explain before I jump to too many conclusions.
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While not 100% anonymous there is the Tor browser (Firefox) and network. Like has been previously said if you use plug ins or extensions your activities and IP address could be tracked. The reality is you can be tracked one way or another online. Your data has to go over someone's network even when its encrypted.
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The tower browser bundle ( TBB ) works well for me......

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I'm not sure I get what you're implying as there's nothing surreptitious, unethical, immoral, or illegal in my intent. I just don't like offering all of my personal, medical, and financial information to be openly tied to my IP and "free for the taking"... or that some government 'hack', such as the criminals OC has hired as customer reps to have full access to same. I need to get my wife some insurance and don't care to jeopardize everything in doing so.

Now why would you "hope that isn't me"??? Please explain before I jump to too many conclusions.
Because if theres a few sites that you regularly visit as opposed to just your general browsing that you don't want to send information to, theres usually a reason and its generally pretty bad.

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In Afghanistan, I had to use sites like Btunnel and Anonyproxy to connect to Glock Talk. I'm not expert enough to know how well they work, but they fooled our ISP, Sniperhill.
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Because if theres a few sites that you regularly visit as opposed to just your general browsing that you don't want to send information to, theres usually a reason and its generally pretty bad.
You obviously didn't bother reading anything I've posted other than what you wanted to interpret.

Go get yourself some O2 as it's obvious your body is depleted.
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Here's something some of might want to consider;
Making it look like you have something to hide can, in it's self, raise a red flag.

I'll occasionally change my IP address, just like I occasionally change my credit/debit card numbers, but I'll not go out of my way and inconvenience myself out of fear of being watched and/or tracked.
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I am not a computer guy, but i use this one is it any good?
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Not really. If you're scared that big brother is watching your Google searches for The Anarchist's Cookbook e-books, it'll stop Google from recording your information on the search, but after that they do nothing unless you're using them as a proxy. And then we come to the problem that they have servers in the US. A proxy service with servers in the US is effectively useless.
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Here's something some of might want to consider;
Making it look like you have something to hide can, in it's self, raise a red flag.

I'll occasionally change my IP address, just like I occasionally change my credit/debit card numbers, but I'll not go out of my way and inconvenience myself out of fear of being watched and/or tracked.
In today's world of the corruption in the White House and Washington, D.C., in general, you're probably right. But since my interest only really involves one site that I can think of I'm not really worried. Hell, I guess I could just go to the pubic library and use their computers, but I'm not going to that much hassle at this point.

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Not really. If you're scared that big brother is watching your Google searches for The Anarchist's Cookbook e-books, it'll stop Google from recording your information on the search, but after that they do nothing unless you're using them as a proxy. And then we come to the problem that they have servers in the US. A proxy service with servers in the US is effectively useless.
Do you work hard at being a negative, condescending jackal, or does it come with the name? Just curious...

Btw, you can also stop Google from recording your searches by not using Google. Pretty simple, eh?
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Do you work hard at being a negative, condescending jackal, or does it come with the name? Just curious...

Btw, you can also stop Google from recording your searches by not using Google. Pretty simple, eh?

You came in here not knowing dick about proxies and asking about them. I've built the things and I answered your question and the other user's question factually and effeciently. When I say something, its not because I want to coddle you and give you warm fuzzies, its because you asked a question and I have an answer. Don't like my answer? Go ***** to the IANA or the IEEE.

And no, its not that simple. Thats why you came in here asking questions, because you know its not that simple.

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Just ran across this...

TOR is Safe No More!
Hmmm...
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You came in here not knowing dick about proxies and asking about them. I've built the things and I answered your question and the other user's question factually and effeciently. When I say something, its not because I want to coddle you and give you warm fuzzies, its because you asked a question and I have an answer. Don't like my answer? Go ***** to the IANA or the IEEE.

And no, its not that simple. Thats why you came in here asking questions, because you know its not that simple.
Do you ever bother reading what you post, or do you just have a ****-ass attitude towards people? Yes, I came here and asked about something I know nothing about, with clean and clear intent, and you've done nothing but accuse me of 'doing bad things' and the other guy of being an 'Anarchist'. If being a reasonable, congenial, and helpful individual is that hard for you, why not just stay off the Internet forums? Geez...
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Do you ever bother reading what you post, or do you just have a ****-ass attitude towards people? Yes, I came here and asked about something I know nothing about, with clean and clear intent, and you've done nothing but accuse me of 'doing bad things' and the other guy of being an 'Anarchist'. If being a reasonable, congenial, and helpful individual is that hard for you, why not just stay off the Internet forums? Geez...
Maybe you should read the thread again. I came in here with a helpful tone, answered your question, and noted that theres a difference between hiding your browsing and stopping a small number of websites you regularly visit from being traced back to you. The latter is, almost always, because people have something to hide. The former is what regular people want but is impractical.

And then the other poster asked if a particular service was good and effective and I replied with the answer to his question in a professional and efficient manner.

And the whole time you've been in here riding my ass because you got all sore at me over my answer to you, so you've been looking for an argument. I haven't called you a single thing in this thread yet you've been throwing around words like, "Anarchist" because...I dunno..guilty conscience or something? But its not of my doing. Go somewhere else if you want an argument. People have questions, I have answers.
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