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Old 03-18-2005, 23:06   #176
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Re: How would that work?

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When a sabot is behind the bullet it effectively acts as an oversized gasket that ties the pressure of the expanding gasses to the projectile. If the sabot were in front, wouldn't it just shoot out of the barrel by itself, leaving the projectile behind to tumble out of control in the gasses?
Basically, yes.

The sabot also has to do a bit of stabilizing of the bullet and then let the bullet go on its own without upsetting it or slowing it down.
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Old 03-26-2005, 08:13   #177
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Very interesting thread. I can certainly appreciate some of the things involved in getting to this point.

New G29 might need to eat some of that one of these days ... ' Got a chrono and a buddy with Dillon 550B. Poor guy still shoots a Sig in .40. Maybe there is hope for him too.
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Old 09-09-2005, 04:37   #178
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Old 09-16-2005, 06:54   #179
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I'm really interested in this project myself. Any ideas of when there might be an update? Thanks for all your work on this idea.
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Old 11-24-2005, 01:13   #180
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I'd rather have a .30...

My .02,
I'd rather have a 10mm necked down to .30 than .224. The use of already available sabots would facilitate .224 bullets. I think something like the .30 Armco or 7.82 L-W would be really nifty for extended range pistol shooting as well as soft armor penetration with better terminal results that any .22 varmint round derivative. If one could mimick the 7.62x39 to fit in a 10mm Auto envelope, I think it would do what the .224 BOZ and 5.7x28 endeavored to accomplish, only better, with the option of a small-bore projectile if the legions of varmints should attack.
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Old 12-13-2005, 09:59   #181
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what i'm doing till this happens is using the 30cal sabots with a 40gr bullet in cz52 762x25 cartridge

2100fps with non max load
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Old 05-11-2006, 08:20   #182
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I know this thread is old but has it gone anywhere.

http://www.ammunitionstore.com/board...topic1&msg=972
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Old 05-14-2006, 01:19   #183
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, bleah, bleah, bleah, boz this, boz that, that ad is a bunch of crap.

...but, to better answer your question, it appears our guy who was to do his part has not been able to "do his part" (for whatever reason)... and so... we need to find someone who CAN...

We have not failed... yet!

...so... any relatively ambitious takers out there with the where-with-all to "follow thru" in making a sabot?
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Old 06-24-2006, 01:00   #184
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Can we have a drum roll, please...

MCNETT is now ON IT! God Bless him!!!



Stay tuned, people...
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Old 06-24-2006, 09:34   #185
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Dang! That's as good as done then.


Btw...so far so good on the new agrip. I think I got it stuck down good this time cause I used most of a can of brake pad cleaner getting the frame degreased. Its just extra special when its new and fuzzy.
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Old 06-25-2006, 11:55   #186
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I know this thread is old but has it gone anywhere.

http://www.ammunitionstore.com/board...topic1&msg=972
But I thought the Boz round was pripatory.... how in the name of Earth did somone "make dies"....
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Old 07-22-2006, 20:27   #187
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Is the .223XR still going to fire saboted bullets or will the case be necked?
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Old 09-17-2006, 17:19   #188
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Old 09-17-2006, 18:32   #189
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I'm still hopefully waiting!!

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Old 09-17-2006, 19:52   #190
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But I thought the Boz round was priapismic.... how in the name of Earth did somone "make dies"....


There, fixed it for you.
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Old 07-09-2007, 01:26   #191
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Old 01-20-2008, 20:40   #192
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Old 01-28-2008, 22:53   #193
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10mm/.224 Lightning Bolt

Greetings all, I did this project back in the early 90s and the secret is to use 10mm Magnum brass which has a length of 1.250.

The longer brass gives room for the bottle neck and powder capacity.

I wrote it up on the olde AmmoLab forums and not long after, the Brits borrowed my idea.
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Old 03-01-2008, 19:12   #194
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Will the 1:15.75" twist of the 10mm Glock barrel be sufficient to stabilize
a 55 grain .223 bullet?

Sounds like a fun project.

I loaded sabots in a revolver a couple of years ago.

Shooting .44 and 9mm slugs from a S&W 500 magnum was a riot.

Virtually no recoil, but still good velocities.

(the best part about that was the sabots for a .50 caliber firearm are
readily available at any store that cators to muzzle loaders)
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Old 03-04-2008, 18:45   #195
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Will the 1:15.75" twist of the 10mm Glock barrel be sufficient to stabilize
a 55 grain .223 bullet?
I seriously doubt it. 1/12" would probably work. Not sure how the added length of the sabot, and its departure in flight are going to effect the stability of the bullet.

When fired from .308 type barrels, typically the twist rate is 1/10", or 1/12". I suspect about the same would be necessary for this application.

Not that I ever expect to see it gain widespread use.
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Old 12-10-2008, 12:39   #196
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RIP or has anyone made a 10 mm shoot a 223 bullet?
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Old 02-05-2009, 00:48   #197
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this is actually an interesting thread. if i still had that jewelers lathe that is at my dad's house now i would have to try it myself with some custom machined sabbots. i would be real interested to see the numbers on it.

Keep us informed guys
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Old 05-09-2009, 00:07   #198
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Old 08-02-2009, 21:36   #200
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Well darn! I erad all the way through this thread from god knows when in 2000 to find that it ends with no results on the 8th page?? What needs to be done, I was so excited to get to the end and see what happened! I am so very dissapointed right now!
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